Privacy crying at OTWA

[Powerhouse]

http://www.otwa.com/community/showthread.php?t=32762


Aug-16-2005, 06:44:06 PM
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posting private emails or other private messages on OTWA OK?
Messages from the private members only board PeSA are being posted on OTWA.

http://www.otwa.com/community/showt...0&page=51&pp=15

Posting private emails is prohibited according to the posting policy I read. Is that still the case? Is the posting of private messages prohibited also? May we without permission copy words which are private commications that we are not authorized to read and post them here on OTWA?

The author of the private messages which were posted on OTWA had specifically not given permission to post his private messages on a public board.

Quote:
Bobby, thanks for the invite to stay here at OTWA, but when I posted here last night I did not realize you were again copying and pasting my posts from the PeSA board to OTWA. As you know, I phoned you last week and directly asked you not to do this. I had hoped that would be enough, but I was wrong.


http://www.otwa.com/community/showt...55&page=3&pp=15 Post #40

[rossshow]

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waaaaaaaaaa

[rossshow]

Ron - you are using a chat board - there IS NO real privacy on those, no matter WHAT you choose to call it.

You can call it the superdy-duperdy-q-clearance-lederhosen-wearing-private-secret-board and it isn't going to affect one whit the reality that it IS NOT private.

It's just the reality of the situation.

But - Hey - if you want to squeeze your eyes closed real tight then maybe you can pretend, right?



HAHahahahahaha

[Powerhouse]

Jim responds:


Ronny,

First, OTWA has always errored on the side of privacy, but that's not what we're talking about here.

In the case of quoting from another board, there is no "rule" in place for that. Historically, quoting parts of a conversation from other boards has been allowed. As to whether it's from a 'private' board, or a 'public' board doesn't matter, because there is no such thing as a private board unless it's behind a firewall on an Intranet. In which case the 'company' would need to deal with the person releasing the information.

There are however, boards on the Internet that are 'exclusionary'(often 'called' private) but again, this would fall to the management of that board, not OTWA. A private/exclusionary board, that is open to hundreds, or even thousands of people isn't 'private' - you can't have privacy broadcasting a post to hundreds or even thousands of people. But even with all that, it's unrealistic to think that OTWA has any intention of running around the Internet trying to police other boards to determine if they are private/exclusionary or public.

-Jim


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[thentavius]

Well, heck. Ronny is part of PeSA, right? PeSA seems to think that a message board is a private, enclosed vacumn. Heh.

They seem to think that message boards are private and confidential.

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[Toy Ranch]

I do not believe that "ronny" is a member of PeSA.

I believe "ronny" is a former OTWA member who was suspended.

[thentavius]

Ah hah. The plot thickens.

[Powerhouse]

Whoever 'ronny' is, the one thing that is known is that 'ronny' needs to get a grip on reality and learn how the messageboard world, and real world for that matter, works.

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[Powerhouse]

:1chirol_r You are NOT going to believe THIS one!!! :1chirol_r

http://www.otwa.com/community/showthread.php?t=32846

:1chirol_r

[rossshow]

Ronnie came back to scold Jim...

http://www.otwa.com/community/showthread.php?t=32762&page=1&pp=15



You don't have to police every board on the internet. You know that PeSA is private and you know that Toy Ranch did not have permission to post Jay's private conversations.

And privacy is exactly what we are talking about here. There is simply no difference between a private email and a private chat board message because both are expressly private. By allowing the posting of private conversations on your board against the express permission of the author you are assuming some responsibility for what is posted. I believe you may also be assuming some liability should any damage occur because of the posting of any private and confidential conversations.

You damage your board as well because in this case the posting were done to attack other eBay sellers in PeSa and specifically Jay and Marie. Do you think serious eBay sellers are going to want to use a board that is hostile to seller organizations and allows attacks on them with the posting of their private and privileged conversations? You have already lost posters because of the unethical and unbusiness like attacks on sellers including threats to investigate and report their auctions that have come from your board Jay and Marie among them.

Thanks anyway for responding at least. I now know exactly where you stand. I do wonder if you would feel the same way if some of your private conversations were posted in order to harm you and your family. I am betting not.

[rossshow]

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I know my opinion has little weight here. I am a nobody around here at least and not a big shot like you. An because you have like a million posts and I have only 25 you must be right. chortle. Can I ask you something? Do you actually ever work? Are you retired or independently wealthy or does your wife support you or what? Just curious. I did a search to find the post where you posted the private conversations, and wow do you post all the time! Maybe it is you that really runs this board I don't know.
Obviously posting private conversations is just fine with you and the board owner at least as long it is not you're private conversations. I know that now. Very righteous of both of you too. chortle chortle.
You know what they say though. What goes around comes around. chortle. Is your hobby really destroying other peoples businesses and reputations like I been told? You must be one powerful man. You know what the most powerful man in the world is?

[tekobari]

"chortle?" Is he choking, or what? I guess he thinks it's more inventive than "lol" or "hah."

FTR, I don't even think emails should be considered to be private, if you really think about it. They're postcards. If they were private, you could send your SS# in them; you could talk to your doctor in them. But you can't. My doc uses a secure board. The only way to send a CC # is in three or four emails.

I think everyone pretty well knows that an email can be shared by the recipient and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it unless the board owner/website publisher deletes it.

[ADMIRAL]

"chortle?" Is he choking, or what? I guess he thinks it's more inventive than "lol" or "hah."

It is probably just a chowderhead, or some other ASSCLOWN.

Perhaps it is Rodney. :1spar:

[Powerhouse]

It is probably just a chowderhead, or some other ASSCLOWN.

Perhaps it is Rodney. :1spar:


I don't think so - his post I can understand, Rod's are undecipherable and not worth the effort.

[ADMIRAL]

I don't think so - his post I can understand, Rod's are undecipherable and not worth the effort.

Yeah, well ................ I'm somewhat fluent in foreign languages. :D