HEY SCOTT AND BILL

[rockinwriter]

THIS ONE IS FOR YOU:**** :**** :**** :****

[foptiludrop]

Has HEP stolen your password, Miss Wanda?

[TurtleTrax]

Foppie! :jest

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Miss Wanda, there's no need to screw up Ross's board by starting a million threads just because you're mad at Scott and that BIG guy. You could confine it all to one thread, and that way, we could all ignore it.

[rockinwriter]

Well, I have a lot of juicy information. I guess I can always contact some of the sponsoring ceos and let them know I am getting the shaft in matters that concern my part. After all, I do have a vested interest in things.

[foptiludrop]

Well, I have a lot of juicy information.
Fine. Pick one thread and spill the beans to your heart's content, Miss Wanda. As Dale said, it'll be much easier for us to follow along if you stay in one place while revealing who all is a fucktard. :)

[10x]

I guess I can always contact some of the sponsoring ceos and let them know I am getting the shaft in matters that concern my part. After all, I do have a vested interest in things.

Then why are you posting here for???

[TurtleTrax]

Well, I have a lot of juicy information. Really? All I've seen you post is this:
:****

Nobody's stopping you from posting your juicy information, are they?

[rockinwriter]

Anyone interested to know about the lady that was stopped at the airport for drug possession, but claimed someone put it in her backpack since she was handicapped.

[10x]

Sounds like fun, go ahead and post it.

[zeldas]

Anyone interested to know about the lady that was stopped at the airport for drug possession, but claimed someone put it in her backpack since she was handicapped.

http://www.zeldas.com/blinky/shutup.gif

[paleryder]

If you're gonna use this board to make a point in order to get/have your way with those fucktards, please, make it quick.I get bored, easily. :jest

Now, use me up.......:smokin

[Toy Ranch]

Fine. Pick one thread and spill the beans to your heart's content, Miss Wanda. As Dale said, it'll be much easier for us to follow along if you stay in one place while revealing who all is a fucktard.

Yes, this is the place, right in this thread, to get it all off your chest.

[sadie999]

http://server1.inlandnet.com/~jilittle/richardsimmons.jpg

[mewsicmama]

Have you noticed how 'tarzan' has dropped off the radar lately?

[Melissa1959]

I would suggest being very careful about making accusations about "the lady who is handicapped". Of all those ever involved with the crap at AE/ET, if this is the person I believe you refer to, you are way off track IMO. While you may have good reason to be pissed, throw your stones at the right people.

[EvilAnggellene]

Could have been medicinal :joint for all we know?

Looks like a great day for me to decide to check in on you guys!

[r0ss]

LOL! Wanda, you just go right ahead and spill your info, tell us the scoop. LEt us in on the news, go ahead.

[rockinwriter]

I have many axes to grind, and any way you slice this cake , I know I come out on the short end of the stick. I have been privy to many things that have gone on behind the scenes as well as my daughter. Just because I am angry about many things does not mean that I do not know what I am talking about.
My daughter and I were promised many things if we would just keep our mouths shut. We were accused of funding being slow because we were spilling the beans; yet not once did anyone try to do the right thing and help us out financially. Nothing we were promised has come to fruitation. Instead we was given non disclosure agreements in so many different forms to sign; yet, I strictly refused. Do any of you ever wonder why non disclosure agreements were given out at that meeting almost two years ago. Many of you signed then without a moment's hesitation. Many of you have been left by the wayside since that time.I refused to sign then, I refused to work without pay as many of you have and probably still are. You are promised the moon in the beginning, then a pullback of the promises, and then different promises. If you do not have something in writing, you should think about why. Some people are masters at the art of deception..

[krisinluck]

So. You promised to keep your mouth shut and he'd deliver what he promised in the divorce. You kept your mouth shut, and you got nothing. Now you are hinting around, doing the threatening to tell all thing in hopes he's going to come around?

He's not going to come around. He's shown repeatedly what kind of man he is.

If you are holding back in hopes of him coming through, he's already proven he won't. So you not only have nothing, but you are mad as hell with the info you are witholding from the community he wants to be such a big shot in.

If you tell all and get nothing because you "didn't keep your mouth shut", you really won't be in any different place than you already are, will you? But you'll feel better for telling the tale, rather than covering for him while he jacks you around.

JMO, but then I'm a bitch and wouldn't have been silent this long if I had dirt to burn a man who did the public spectacle shit he did.

Let 'er rip.

[10x]

Well if you dont have a non discloser problem, pease explain for us fools that dont have a clue.

[socrfan2]

Nothing we were promised has come to fruitation.

Well, if its any consolation, I suspect most of ET's once and future "key employees" could say the same thing. :rofl3

It was pretty evident from Day 1 that it would take a $100M business to support to overhead structure of VPs and customer support specialists they were roping in. I haven't followed this that closely, but my impression is that their sales and market penetration have, er, fallen somewhat short of their original hopes.

Of course, for the ones who got stock, there's still the IPO and the all cash buyout to wait for. :rofl3

Not justifying what the Big Dope did to you by any stretch, just suggesting that you're far from the only one who got screwed in this whole venture.

[z Irene z]

Rockinwriter appears to trying to blackmail Scott for financial compensation with respect to a divorce settlement. However, Scott isn't married to her - Bill is.

I strongly suspect that Scott hasn't signed any legal contracts where he has made personal financial commitments to anyone. Any contracts would probably have been signed by Scott as an OWNER of Ethical Technologies L.L.C.

L.L.C. = Limited Liability Company

the owners of an LLC are not personally liable for its debts and liabilities
From here (http://www.legalzoom.com/law_library/LLCs/introduction.html).

Even if there were a written contract which has been broken, there is no point even suing unless the company has assets on which no one else has a claim.

[rockinwriter]

There are several people who own a percentage of the company. Scott does not own it in its entirity. Bill owns 12 % and my attorney has the contract.

[krisinluck]

So if your attorney is involved, why isn't BigBill in court getting raked over the coals for not paying you what he is supposed to be paying you? This is tawdry stuff and draws a crowd, mainly because some of us would like to know the real scoop behind the "Ethical" crowd, but really...you need to light a fire under your attorney's ass and get something happening.

[bladepusher]

Do any of you ever wonder why non disclosure agreements were given out at that meeting almost two years ago. Many of you signed then without a moment's hesitation. Many of you have been left by the wayside since that time.

Not everyone at the get togethers signed anything or even knew there was anything to sign. Nobody passed me the papers :joint

Anyone interested to know about the lady that was stopped at the airport for drug possession, but claimed someone put it in her backpack since she was handicapped.

That is not what I heard. :|

[Melissa1959]

What BP said. I never got any papers to sign, nor was I even aware of that aspect of the Oct. 2003 get-to-gether. I thought, in my innocence, that it was just a party.

I heard a story about the airport, but it was not even close to what was mentioned here.

[EvilAnggellene]

Wanda if you have something to share with the rest of the class can you just DO IT already so we can move on from the ET train wreck?

I mean you no disrespect but you come here and try to bait Scott & Bill every couple of months, threatening to air their dirty laundry. I can only assume they then throw you a *bone* to shut you up and then once again you disappear leaving all those who read your numerous Bill's a f*cktard posts in the dark.

So it's time to either crap or get off the pot. This is like the worst form of dick-teasing. I'm starting to feel used. You gotta stop pulling TRB people into your blackmail posts. We can't back you up if we don't have the details.

Sorry for my crude-ness

[r0ss]

We can't back you up if we don't have the details.

Right, Wanda. Spill it ALL.

[saucepan]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Not everyone at the get togethers signed anything or even knew there was anything to sign. Nobody passed me the papers <hr></blockquote>

Well, then you weren't part of the chosen. Thank your lucky stars!

EvilAngeline: bravo!

[EvilAnggellene]

Silence once again.

I guess it's safe to assume a a bone was thrown to Miss Wanda yet again. I certainly hope it was the big meaty one she so desires, but somehow I doubt it. More rainbow promises I bet.

Wanda, in two or three months from now when BB and Scott become Fucktards in your world once again, could you save us the drama? We haven't learned anything new to this story and quite frankly, it's getting boring as Hell.

We all wish you and your zoo of pets the very best. Hopefully the Ethical Mafia will do right by you some day.

[z Irene z]

We all wish
*sigh* My pet peeve - posters who presume to speak for everyone on a board.

I don't wish anyone well in their role as a blackmailer, particularly when they have given hints on this board that they are willing to hurt innocent third parties if they don't get what they want.

[r0ss]

LOL! I guess it's just that kind of board, Irene.

I see posters do it, all the time.

Oh well.

Me? I like reading Wanda's Rants. Very much. And I'm sure Wanda knows that.

[mango man 555]

I like reading Wanda's Rants. Very much. And I'm sure Wanda knows that.

kinda like readint the headlines on the tabloids at the supermarket , lots of promise but no substance when you turn to page 3

[Toy Ranch]

www.page3.com (http://www.page3.com)

I dunno, page 3 seems to be OK... :irollers8

[TurtleTrax]

I wonder why PG hasn't done a screen shot of this thread and posted it at AE yet...

Irene, I don't support the role of a blackmailer, either, but I do feel that rockinwriter has been led down the garden path (probably several times, now) and is too naive to realize it.

I wonder how many of those supporting CEO's she's contacted.

[z Irene z]

Her choice to go down the garden path, Dale. I'm sure her lawyer, who presumably isn't naive, has presented her with at least one other option. However, she appears to be looking for cash her husband doesn't have.

Reality check: Her legal entitlement in a divorce with respect to ET at most probably consists of part ownership in the pipe-dream, not cold-hard cash. I doubt her husband has the legal authority to force a liquidation or sale of the company, even if he wanted to.

[boardbimbo]

Silence once again.

I guess it's safe to assume a a bone was thrown to Miss Wanda yet again.

Or else she passed out.

Hell, I'd leave too.

[Toy Ranch]

Reality check: Her legal entitlement in a divorce with respect to ET at most probably consists of part ownership in the pipe-dream, not cold-hard cash.

Yes, that is probably true.

However... the result of a divorce settlement negotiated by the two parties does not necessarily follow the guidelines of "legal entitlement".

I was married, and divorced, in my early 20's. We mutually agreed to a division of property and assets that was along the lines of what we both felt was appropriate. The lawyers shuffled the paperwork, and the judge signed off on it. As both her lawyer and mine repeatedly stated, our agreement was not in keeping with "legal entitlement", but it was what we both knew and agreed was fair and appropriate to our situation.

[z Irene z]

Yes, Bobby, but did you give your wife assets you didn't own or cash you didn't have?

[Toy Ranch]

Irene~ Wanda and her daughter have been listed as "employees" of Ethical on their AboutMe page at various times since she first posted here on this board. I don't know the arrangement, but I assume she was getting something out of that... All I'm saying is that neither you nor I know what Wanda has been promised, or what she might stand to receive... "Legal entitlement" didn't have anything to do with her being listed as an employee, I do not believe.

[z Irene z]

She's not married and trying to divorce ET. I am talking a about the assets she might have any sort of legal claim to in a divorce i.e. her husband's assets.

[z Irene z]

Verbal promises aren't worth the paper they are written on.

[Toy Ranch]

Verbal promises aren't worth the paper they are written on.

Yes, that's a quaint old phrase... and I dunno, it may actually be the case in Canada, but verbal contracts are binding in the US, and can be enforced. There are lots of ways, both technological and proof by offering witnesses, etc. that can establish the validity of a verbal contract.

www.voicestamps.com/verba...racts.html (http://www.voicestamps.com/verbal_contracts.html)

Once again, however... you are seemingly not willing to accept the concept that divorce settlements are often decided by mutual consent, and not by fighting it out in court.

[z Irene z]

No I am saying how can someone give you something, even by mutual consent, if it doesn't exist?

[Toy Ranch]

OK Irene, what is being asked for that doesn't exist? This isn't making any sense... unless you know exactly what Wanda wants, and exactly what Bill and/or Ethical has...

[z Irene z]

My guess she wants her share of the huge profits from the sale of a "wildly successful" ET.

:rolleyes

[Toy Ranch]

From what she has posted, there is no indication that she believes they will be successful at all, much less wildly successful.

I have heard that they received some investment capital/financing. Don't know if that's true or not, but I'm guessing they are a long ways from positive cash flow, and they are still around.

Both your assumptions and your conclusions seem faulty to me, Irene. But maybe you are right. I guess that in time, we will or won't find out :)

[TurtleTrax]

Looks like she's been silenced once again - for the time being, anyway.