View Full Version : BOB GELDOF "Anti-Free-Commerce" Terroristic Threat
Netcops don't like free commerce
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On Ebay UK
forums.ebay.co.uk/thread....8777832083 (http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=400071501&tstart=0&mod=1118777832083)
Auction Interference
offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI...6539509077 (http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=6539509077)
More interference
offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI...6539557725 (http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=6539557725)
Ebay folds.
news.google.com/news?q=li...a=N&tab=wn (http://news.google.com/news?q=live%208%20ebay&num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rls=SNYC,SNYC:2004-13,SNYC:en&sa=N&tab=wn)
Toy Ranch
06-14-2005, 12:59 PM
What a bunch of idiots.
www.reuters.com/newsArtic...ID=8789161 (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=8789161)
Fucking Geldof said:
Geldof criticized the site and urged people to swamp it with bogus offers of tickets or massively inflated bids.
"What I would ask you to do tonight is to get on eBay and mess up the system," he told Sky News.
a spokesman told Reuters.
"eBay has decided to not allow the resale of Live 8 tickets on the site,"
"We have listened to eBay's community of users and the message has been clear -- that they do not want the tickets to be sold on the site. Once we are made aware of any Live 8 tickets being resold they will be taken down," he added.
forums.ebay.co.uk/thread....9&tstart=0 (http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=200212269&tstart=0)
Sorry Ebay didn't have the guts to stand up to Geldof. It's alright for him to section of the front of the concert and sell corporate tickets at crazy prices, but not anyone else.
Does he really think this will stop people selling tickets, I have already seen them advertised in newspapers, and someone offered to sell me a ticket in the pub last night.
19microbes55
06-14-2005, 03:35 PM
Geldof criticized the site and urged people to swamp it with bogus offers of tickets or massively inflated bids.
Ebay needs to take this fool to court and sue him for the FVF's of all the auctions that were interfered with, and for the total amount of the final bids. Slap this fool with a multi-million dollar judgement and people will think twice about commiting auction interference.
Heartland Antiques
06-14-2005, 03:37 PM
Does he really think this will stop people selling tickets, I have already seen them advertised in newspapers, and someone offered to sell me a ticket in the pub last night. Exactly. eBay was held hostage by threats of illegal acts and auction interference, and had no choice but to capitulate or suffer the results of Geldof's rabble-rousing. It's not worth the hit to their image.
So if I win a doorprize at a charity event, am I not ethically allowed to sell that prize if I don't want it or can't use it? Does it not belong to me?
Who exactly was going to be hurt by these tickets being sold? A spirit? Come again? The poor weren't going to be hurt by it. It's still going to happen, and people are going to profit, just not on eBay. Neither eBay nor the sellers were doing anything illegal, and while free enterprise can be immoral, that's in the eyes of the beholder. Values vary.
I think the money some of those "star-studded stars" makes is obscene, but more power to them if they can get it. Who in the hell are they to take that opportunity away from someone else who is not violating any laws? Not only take it away, mind you, but threaten to disrupt their business until they get their way!
If anything, I say get the rich people who can afford thousands for a concert ticket, because they're the ones with the clout to influence the G8. So get them there and lay the guilt trip on them about fighting poverty. A bunch of liberal musicians might influence some leaders, but they don't have any clout with our leader ... so get the wheelers and dealers there who do have clout in this country and other parts of the world and lay it on thick.
BTW, is there real evidence that Geldof sold his front sections to corporations?
forums.ebay.co.uk/thread....#206067603 (http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?messageID=206067603�)
forums.ebay.co.uk/thread....8793192696 (http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=200212361&tstart=0&mod=1118793192696)
We live in a free-market economy. Everything is worth something, and people should be allowed to exploit that. Geldof called Ebay 'electronic pimps' which shows his lack of coherent thought and goodwill to others. Okay, some people would have made a pretty penny from the sale of tickets, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have given a percentage to charity. Besides, he raises the same amount from text sales and a persistent seller will always find a means to a buyer- Supply and Demand 101.
forums.ebay.co.uk/thread....8789522815 (http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=200211930&tstart=0&mod=1118789522815)
Does the TRASHING of the LIVE 8 auctions make a Mockery of Ebay? If I was Ebay Execs,I would be worried. If it becomes the fashionable "Fun" of the moment,to ruin Ebay auctions......
Same thread:
slozenger (200 feedback) admits
I have trashed these Live8 auctions myself.
blissmeister
06-14-2005, 06:18 PM
*singing*
Koom ba yaaa, ma lord, koom ba yaaa.
*running*
Solar Destroyer
06-14-2005, 06:24 PM
The way the truth should have been printed:
"eBay has decided to not allow the resale of Live 8 tickets on the site,"
"We have listened to eBay's community of users which is, and ONLY is Bob Geldof and the message has been clear -- that he does not want the tickets to be sold on the site. Once we are made aware of any Live 8 tickets being resold they will be taken down," he added.
BookMastered
06-14-2005, 06:53 PM
I almost feel like urging people not to go to the damn show.
paleryder
06-14-2005, 08:19 PM
Speaking about the situation, Geldof said: "I am sick with this. It is a fucking disgrace. It is completely against the interests of the poor. The people who are selling it are wretches."
www.nme.com/news/112672.htm (http://www.nme.com/news/112672.htm)
An eBay representative declined to comment on whether the policy change set a precedent that others might copy to strong-arm the company into censoring items for sale.
www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,67857,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2 (http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,67857,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2)
Heartland Antiques
06-14-2005, 09:12 PM
"What eBay are doing is profiteering on the backs of the impoverished," Geldof said in a statement quoted by Reuters. Maybe I'm dense about this and someone could explain it to me. How do free tickets sold by a few opportunistic eBay sellers for a big jam session by rich & famous rock stars who believe that world leaders give a shit what they think, translate into profiteering "on the backs of the impoverished"? What exactly do the impoverished have to do with any of this, unless they had the tickets hand-printed by six-year-olds in Ethiopia? They're not taking anything present or future away from the impoverished that I can see. Those private dollars weren't earmarked for Bob Geldof-approved items only, and remember, it's not even a fund-raising concert!
And why isn't the concert a fund-raiser? How much free publicity and media attention are those rich (and more than a few washed-up) rock stars getting "on the backs of the impoverished"?
People are strange. I don't doubt their sincerity. Well, not all of them. It's their grip on reality and reason that I have a problem with.
Cyber Diva
06-14-2005, 11:02 PM
".... and remember, it's not even a fund-raising concert!"
Yeap! That sort of sums it up! :rofl3
I'd julst like to point out that many people in the UK struggle to make ends meet as well. Many of those selling on their tickets on ebay are struggling to pay mortgages, dental bills, education fees etc. Why on earth shouldn't they be allowed to make some cash from this?
It's all very well for a bunch of multi-millionaire over-the-hill pop stars to label the ticket re-sellers "Scum", but when was the last time they had to go out and graft for a ***ing living?
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enter...095464.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4095464.stm)
Bidders who tried to prevent the sale of Live 8 tickets on auction website eBay have had their accounts suspended.
Heartland Antiques
06-15-2005, 07:58 AM
David Tilley, from Claverham, near Bristol, was one of the bidders affected.
He placed a high bid and his account was frozen due to a "deliberate attempt to disrupt an auction".
But at the same time he was sent an e-mail to say the tickets had been withdrawn anyway as they breached acceptable items policy.
Mr Tilley told the BBC News website: "I want nothing to do with any company who rips off a charity. Again, what charity? There is no charity. There is no theft. There is no fraud. No one is being ripped off!
BookMastered
06-17-2005, 04:04 AM
Maybe it should be a fund-raising concert. They could pass a hat or something. Hell, I dunno, maybe record it & sell the damn thing. Then again, they probably thought of that.
Caped Crusader DC27
06-17-2005, 10:40 AM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"What I would ask you to do tonight is to get on eBay and mess up the system," he told Sky News.<hr></blockquote> I'm all for messing up the system, but on a much larger scale than just targeting eBay over something like this. Selling tickets to a concert really just doesn't seem that bad. Maybe Geldof should have just thought of the fucking idea first, and he could have raised more money to feed the people that need help.
Caped Crusader DC27
06-23-2005, 07:24 AM
<a href="http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/gallagher%20live%208%20will%20never%20work" target="_blank">The most intelligent thing anyone has said about Live 8 to date.</a>
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