PUZZLEGODDES is SEEN! and OTWA begs her to get HELP! [Archive]

zeldas

05-14-2005, 03:11 PM

Lessee you got to feel a little sorry for demello on this one.

Hepburn makes an ezboard complaint for a gif that is as little as 4kb that Wench stole from her webspace.

BUT Hep stole the image and can't lay claim to copyright. Yet she is using the image anyway? So who is the real thief here?
http://www.sofrayt.com/survey/bonus/dancing10.gif
Poor demello you got to feel sorry for the guy, putting up with this kinda shit.......

He should give out awards

Hep would win hands down, The 2005 Whiny Victim Award.........
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http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/a0/baby.gifhttp://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/a0/baby.gifDon't even think about it Hep I paid for the program

Zilvy

05-14-2005, 03:24 PM

I am still sorry that he missed MM...I don't care if you sat on his lap...when someone has had a stroke they don't go nutty, but they do lose some of their inhabitions. He's probably wanted to shut that mouth of hers for 20 some odd years!

mewsicmama

05-14-2005, 08:43 PM

I did meet him and he did strike me as not quite right. I DID NOT sit on his lap!!!:rofl3

Hepburn101

05-14-2005, 10:58 PM

Y'all are nuts, do you know that?

I stole the gif and hosted it on MY space. If Wench wants to steal if too, then SHE can host it on HER web site.

Secondly, NO MAN has a right to hit a woman, and NO person has a right to lay hands on another person. For zilvy to say its ok just shows what an asshole she is. Im betting she also thinks when a woman says NO, its still ok to rape her anyway? Or its her fault for wearing something "sexy"? Same fucking thing.

Youre a disgrace to all women for saying ANYONE deserved to be hit just because you dont like them. Youre scum, you old hag.

Now..did you have a nice day?

chococake

05-14-2005, 11:20 PM

NO person has a right to lay hands on another

Oh, so then did you lie all those times you said you punched people out?

zeldas

05-14-2005, 11:29 PM

BOING

you old hag.

Say the magic word and you just won a hundred dollars In my best Groucho voice of course

Don't you love it when one old HAG calls another a hag!

http://www.zeldas.com/blinky/deli_flag_girl.gif
Join the club Hep, you are no spring chicken yourself anymore!

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 04:54 AM

VI. DIRECT LINKING/BANDWIDTH THEFT

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Definition: Posting or otherwise causing to appear an image which is hosted on webspace which one is not authorized to use, draining bandwidth from that webspace and costing its owner money every time the ezboard page containing the image is viewed. Often occurs in tandem with Copyright Infringement.

Complaint Procedure:

- Fill out and send a Legal Issue Request Form

- Select "Direct Linking/Bandwidth Theft" under "Specify Your Issue"
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See? Tolja. Complaint filed.

You really are a retarded fuckwit. Someone direct linking to your AOL hosting will not cost you a penny... you can't even see where it's linked, because AOL doesn't give you those stats... you are just throwing a fit about it because you can. It really pisses me off when people who do stuff like that... if you are actually being "injured" in some manner by virtue of the hosting arrangement, that's one thing, but this is just a control freak ploy over one tiny image in one thread, that won't make a bit of difference to anyone's hosting... it's just a matter of you trying to exert control over one tiny thing in your miserable, fucked up life.

:****

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 05:51 AM

Fisticuffs....how many times has the OLD BAT talked about her and her male partners, hell she chased a man as he backed away from a minor bump to the back end of her vehicle with a chain smashing his car. She has claimed to punch out other peoples lights and has bragged about telling her tenents that she would do just that, if they didn't behave!

So here is the scenario....you foul mouthed jerk:

Replacing front teeth $3000
Jaw rewiring $2500
Punch in the mouth as a reprucussion for your nasty self.
PRICELESS!!

Now do tell how you greeted Rudy with Hi! How're things going...and he tried to punch out your lights! Riiiiiiight

socrfan2

05-15-2005, 10:36 AM

Has it ever occurred to people that most of these tales of woe she regales the world with are probably 100% bullshit?

If they happened, it's not right. No man should ever hit a woman; with that I agree.

But I think most of the stuff is fiction.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-15-2005, 11:13 AM

I stole the gif and hosted it on MY space. If Wench wants to steal if too, then SHE can host it on HER web site.

Uh, dearie, do you not recall that I had it hosted already, way back when I put that board together for you? Likely where you "stole" it from. :lol

I "usurped" your "webspace" simply because I was feeling too lazy to open up my PB account, and find the gif. Sue me, ya eeeejot. :rolleyes

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 11:27 AM

Socrfan, my Mother was a very strong willed, intelligent woman. When she told my brother about the birds and bees she also admonished him in this fashion...A man NEVER strikes a LADY! The operative word was *Lady* (hep, loses)

Being the Female of the species does not make you untouchable, as you sew, so shall you reap! Ugly nasty demeaning nature, mouth out of control......POW, SOCKO, BAM!

(Of course she'll run to Ezboard legal but that's the chance ya take!)

mewsicmama

05-15-2005, 12:59 PM

I just can't believe the vileness spewing out of you Zilvy. I'd be worried if I were you - that karma thing really does work, I've seen it many times. And she DID NOT deserve what happened to her. Give it a rest - it just makes you look like a rabid terrier. Not attractive.

Shari

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 01:11 PM

Mewsicmama, cool your jets. You are on a one woman crusade for no reason......Thanks for playing!:cheer

What a cheerleader you would make...hep acts like one of the boys, mouths off like a longshoreman, a male takes a swing at her....men do not respond well to verbal assault they have a tendency to react in a physical way. She wants to be one of the boys in the way she acts....well, there ya go!

Just cause your buddy, hep, acted almost human for a few hours in your presence doesn't make her sweetness and light... 4 years of exposure to her nasty ways is more proof of what she is than your brief time with her.

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 01:13 PM

MM, can you believe the vileness that spews out of Hep?

You've been there, right alongside most of us .. you've seen the boards melt down, time after time ... you've seen the lies at BiteMe, the cruelty, months and months after people did their best to ignore her ... and her reasoning? It was okay to say the things she said, even to lie about others, because she was pissed off!! You've seen her say some of the most wretched things said by anyone on these boards (with the exception maybe of some of the T&S folks) ...

What about that brand of vileness, MM? Is that okay with you? Or do you see that as somehow acceptable?

There is so much hypocracy in this stuff, it blows my mind .. either lying about someone is okay - or it isn't ... either being vile and crude is okay - or it isn't ... lying to hurt someone is wrong, wrong wrong. That's a truth.

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 02:01 PM

Oh, Blue! You have such a kindly way with words. :neko5

krisinluck

05-15-2005, 02:09 PM

What Blue said.

MM, I understand wanting to defend her. But you can't hold other people to certain standards of vile and let her say some of the things she has said about others. It's got to be all or nothing, but you are aware of what that will get you. That's why you are in this thread right now, holding the position you hold.

It's like being planted between the devil and the deep blue sea. I feel for you, because I've been there.

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 02:09 PM

Just keep that spray-starch away from my underpinnings, Zil, that's all I ask ... :kiss2

krisinluck

05-15-2005, 02:15 PM

Blue, check the upper right corner for a number one, will ya?

happy is here

05-15-2005, 02:18 PM

Mewsicmama

Before you critize Zilvy, maybe you need to remember all the vile shit that spews out of Hep's mouth about and to Zilvy.

I've read all the crap Hep spews about Ross (he always forgives that insane freak, he really is a kind man).

There are countless people Hep bashes and insults constantly. Where is your compassion for them?

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'd be worried if I were you - that karma thing really does work, I've seen it many times.<hr></blockquote>Oh please, Zilvy don't have to worry about "that karma thing".
If anybody wishes bad karma on Zilvy, I reverse it to happy karma. You think I can't do that? Watch me work my magic.

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 02:32 PM

Danke.

r0ss

05-15-2005, 02:59 PM

p214.ezboard.com/fourcomm...=511.topic (http://p214.ezboard.com/fourcommoncondition97317frm19.showMessage?topicID= 511.topic)

Happy to see Flawedplan

mewsicmama

05-15-2005, 07:10 PM

Zilvy - nice try at dismissing me, unfortunately I do have a mind of my own and it seems to be ticking along quite nicely now. Thank YOU for playing!

Happy - I've been around a little longer than you and I know all about Hep and her strong points and weak points. You may have noticed I don't get involved with many threads where she may be crossing swords with people and receiving/dishing stuff out. That is because I have chosen to not get involved in all the incessant name-calling, etc. I am a very peaceful person - unless you mess with my kids - LOL.

Blue - I DON'T AGREE WITH NAME CALLING, GOSSIP-MONGERING, ETC.! You can put me on record as saying that.

ALL I am saying is that one person (even though they may be on the 'outs' with most people) being beat on is not right, and cheerleading for that TO CONTINUE is just flat wrong. I wish Hep would find peace within herself and be able to wean herself off the boards. But then if she did that, who/what would everyone throw daggers at?

Kris - I don't feel like I am between a rock and a hard place. I am an adult, and fully capable of being friends with people without mixing them all up. Hi too, by the way!

Anyway - been a busy day. bathed two dogs and three cats, went shopping, and just finished shaving down my long-haired cat (it's around 90 degrees here - already, and we have no air-conditioning). So, time to get dinner going and relax a bit.

Have a nice evening everyone!

Shari

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 07:21 PM

MM was a Jammie defender, now she is a Hep defender. I get the feeling that MM is just a cheerleader for the fucktards. :cheer :cheer :cheer

Hepburn101

05-15-2005, 07:24 PM

Maybe she will defend you some day, TR. After all..youre a fucktard yourself.

Gosh. Bad hep is name calling again. Youre a big guy, TR. Wanna come hit me to show you can?

:****

Powerhouse

05-15-2005, 07:24 PM

Everyone needs someone in their bleachers. Cheer On! :cheer

mewsicmama

05-15-2005, 07:27 PM

Hi Mike - long time no see!

Powerhouse

05-15-2005, 07:29 PM

Hi, Shari. Yup, RL has been keeping me very busy, but it pays the bills. :) Good to see you are still hanging in their too! :)

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 07:44 PM

Youre a big guy, TR. Wanna come hit me to show you can?

What do you mean by this?

Hepburn101

05-15-2005, 07:58 PM

What do I mean? Im not sure. Awhile back, I was rude to you and you said "do you really want to go there, Hep?" and I apologized because you were right. I didnt want to go there because I got down and dirty and it was wrong. Since then...youve gone out of your way to call me a fucktard amongst other nasty things and I havent even mentioned you or spoken to you. So I figured maybe you wanted to also beat me physically since you so enjoy it with words too. Do you? Would you hit me because you were angry at me for whatever reason? Seems like it to me. And you would be applauded too, since hitting someone out of the blue is okey dokey to some idiots.

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 08:01 PM

Hit you? Is this a joke?

Hepburn101

05-15-2005, 08:02 PM

hep acts like one of the boys, mouths off like a longshoreman, a male takes a swing at her....men do not respond well to verbal assault they have a tendency to react in a physical way.

Yeah. So its ok to hit someone due to words, right? And since its a man, why thats even better because "men" dont respond well to verbal assault, right?

Yes, Ive hit men. In response to being hit first. Yes, I hit my BIL back, but he did more damage. Hes 6'2", Im 5'8". He still had no right to lay his hands on me for ANY reason.

Hepburn101

05-15-2005, 08:03 PM

No, its not a joke. You hit me with words all the time. Why? Because you dont like me? Fine. So why hit me with them? And would you hit me if we were face to face? Its no different than verbal smacks.

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 08:05 PM

I called you a fucktard because you have acted like a fucktard. It has nothing to do with hitting. I'm sorry if someone hit you.

Rawbunzel

05-15-2005, 08:10 PM

If verbal smacks are the same as hitting then you punched me out but good when we had our falling out. :lol You have punched most all of us at one time or another if that is your view. I guess you should be thankful that I and others don't view things your way or you would be considered far more than a verbal abuser...which is how I see you.

No one should be hit.I'll agree with that.

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 08:38 PM

So hep doesn't like my parody? After all of her nasty words my making fun of her situation....well, now ya'll see she HIT
RUDY who is not right! Why BECAUSE HE MADE HER DO IT!
It doesn't get any better than this.....again I am sure she just wished him a good day and he swung at her!

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:04 PM

Everything she has done has been because someone made her do it, don't you get it?

You see, if someone pisses you off, you can say anything you want about them - anywhere you want to - to perfect strangers who will only believe whatever they are told ... and it's O-KAY ... cuz those bad people pissed you off ... they MADE you do it ...

It's apparently the new psychology!!!

I'm gonna find me a board full of strangers, yup, and go tell some whoppers ... and if you piss me off, the whoppers will be all about you you you ... then I'll be healthy, too!

We've been handed the key to mental health .. we'd be fools to refuse it ...

:rofl2

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:10 PM

Blue - I DON'T AGREE WITH NAME CALLING, GOSSIP-MONGERING, ETC.! You can put me on record as saying that.

MM, if that were true, wouldn't your comments have also been aimed at Hep, not just at Zilvy?

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 09:13 PM

Stay with me through my anger, Blue......PUHLEASE don't leave me!! I am sure I can work this outs

This is kinda like the Oscar's isn't it...you win and thank everyone who made it possible.

I'm ready for my close up Mr. DeMille!! First I want to thank Maui and her alter egos, hepburn, webejamin, Rayvin Wing, Way Way, Frannie S., Glewt and, and so many others that I can't think of right now......THANK YEW ALL for this anger that I am working my way through!!

Arrrff, woof, grrrrrrrrrr!!:eek

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:16 PM

Stay with it, Zilvy ... I don't think you're being honest about how really angry you are ... tell me again .. how angry are you?

Rawbunzel

05-15-2005, 09:20 PM

I just can't seem to get mad.
I'm trying.:kitty4

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:23 PM

Clearly there's something wrong with you, if you can't even work up a decent rage ....

How long have you had this problem?

bladepusher

05-15-2005, 09:26 PM

Hey Bunz! You can come to work with me, within 5 minutes you can be as angry as I am! >: :kiss1

Rawbunzel

05-15-2005, 09:28 PM

Well, I am the youngest girl in my family so I imagine my sisters did something awful to me to make me this way. That's what older sisters do you know. They ruin the younger ones to kill the competion for the parents attention. Therefor I can not get mad. I can however get very even.

I can feel my anger swelling up...soon...very soon....

Wicked Wench of the North

05-15-2005, 09:29 PM

OCC = Nutbar Central

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:29 PM

There are too many angry people in this forum now, and I am not one of them ...

I'm either going to find myself a board full of strangers and tell them stories ... or else I'm going to bed ... and you'll never know which one I choose to do, either ...

Heal yourselves, you angry angry people .. some of us would prefer just getting along ... besides, I have several knees to put pins in tomorrow - the work of an orthopedic surgeon is never done ... busy busy busy ...

:b

Rawbunzel

05-15-2005, 09:32 PM

Tell you what Vinnie, I'll go to work with you and in five minutes I'll be as angry as you.....:jest Or we can skip work and just :kiss1 :joint

Hey Bluey...I think I could use a couple of pins in my knees. When can you schedule me in?

Toy Ranch

05-15-2005, 09:37 PM

Hepburn has more former-friends-now-enemies on this one board than any 10 people I can think of have combined... over their entire lives...

but it is still always someone else's fault.

I do not consider myself either a former friend, or an enemy... Hep, YMMV...

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:43 PM

Hey Bluey...I think I could use a couple of pins in my knees. When can you schedule me in?

When you, my dear cardiologist, can mend my broken heart, and not a minute sooner!

(good night, she whispered, so as not to disrupt the flow of important conversation)

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 09:45 PM

Oh, no! Blue you are leaving me and I know I am not angry enough....you, you are sooooooooo Blue!! There how do you feel. Share!:flasher

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 09:54 PM

I think you're plenty angry enough, zil, for one night .. I recommend you take two insults and PM me in the AM ...

adieu ... :insane

newslady

05-15-2005, 10:01 PM

Blue said:

I'm gonna find me a board full of strangers, yup, and go tell some whoppers ... and if you piss me off, the whoppers will be all about you you you ... then I'll be healthy, too!

Hey! I'm not going looking for no strangers! This board, right here, fits the purpose. Allow me the nager to get healthy. So I guess, Kazooey, I'll start with you.

You're mean. And stinky. And have blue hair to boot!

Blade, be forewarned, you're next.

newslady

05-15-2005, 10:03 PM

nager=anger ^ there in my post

socrfan2

05-15-2005, 10:08 PM

You hit me with words all the time. Why? Because you dont like me? Fine. So why hit me with them? And would you hit me if we were face to face? Its no different than verbal smacks.
:wall2

By a wide margin, this takes the award for the most oblivious and unself-aware statement I've ever seen. You have "hit" more people with "words" than any other 10 people I've ever seen online, most of it completely unprovoked. But still, you consider yourself a victim.

And, again, why do you keep coming back here when you've repeatedly said you're leaving forever and hate everyone who posts here? Lack of self-control? Lust for any attention you can get, positive or negative?

BTW, any recent insights about what wretched people we are from that imaginary shrink you've been seeing? :rofl3

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 10:18 PM

Hey there Newsy, don't ya hate when nager takes over...it makes ya spell all funny!!

How're you, you leetle rascal?

blue kazooey

05-15-2005, 10:20 PM

If I was still online tonight, I'd be pretty angry that newsy said I'm mean and stinky ...

Good thing I'm sleeping ...

newslady

05-15-2005, 10:22 PM

*Smack*

BK isn't stinky, but we had no others to go to

Zilvy

05-15-2005, 10:24 PM

You're peaking......put out the light and go to sleep!!

See ya tomorrow Blue...sleep well

ramonaleona

05-16-2005, 08:31 AM

i think that's what you - really - meant - News - and - furthermore - I - demand - that you tell me - now - (please) - what does it - mean...!?

:b

Hepburn101

05-16-2005, 09:59 AM

I called you a fucktard because you have acted like a fucktard. It has nothing to do with hitting. I'm sorry if someone hit you.

Yeah. I do and have and probably will continue to from time to time. But answer this, TR. Show me where I follow you or anyone around, or even stay at one board and continually respond to the NUMEROUS bullshit being flung about me? Once in a while, Ill respond. Most of the time, I try to get away from it, but Im followed. Isnt that fucktardism in its finest form in your opinion?

Thanks for saying youre sorry someone hit me. I am too.

bladepusher

05-16-2005, 10:32 AM

Bunz,

Actually it wouldn't be my work that makes you mad but probably just me in general. I tend to have that efect on people in RL. :evil

Remind me sometime to tell you about my former pastor. That would give you some kind of an idea. But we really should :kiss1 before we get to the telling of tales.

Newsy,

Bring it on, baby! I'm ready for you. :spar Besides nobody has made me cry and whimper like a baby in quite a while.

bladepusher

05-16-2005, 10:36 AM

Dangit no edditt!!!

Newsy,

I forgot to add, what the heck do your branchial arches (http://www.faces-cranio.org/Disord/Nager.htm) have to do with this thread anyway?

Julesy

05-16-2005, 03:20 PM

Zilvy makes PG seem positively sane.

Who made you like this, Zilvy? Seriously. Beating a woman is OK, if, by your standards, they ask for it or deserve it?

You are, by the far, the most hateful, vengeful, ugliest, vile witch out here. Do you eat shit all day and then just regurgitate it here? I really want to know...how the heck did you get to be such a horribly mean jackal?

nanastuff

05-16-2005, 03:24 PM

Gosh, Zil.....all that just for you lmao.

I heart Zilvy.

blue kazooey

05-16-2005, 03:46 PM

Aww, don't worry about it you guys ... julesy has been practicing anger therapy for years now ... :lol

Nothing like somebody jumping in with the HTT card ...

and I heart zilvy, too ... a lot ...

Zilvy

05-16-2005, 03:49 PM

Julesy.......come a little closer I'll finish off that wedgie for ya.

This girl really has her knickers in a knot...her panties in a bunch....her oh well, I won't mention your other problems Petunia.

Read more of hepburn it will soothe you jewellzy!

Zilvy

05-16-2005, 03:51 PM

Ooops I forgot...keep the anger going Jewell but lay off the leaded paint chips... they are not to be eaten like corn flakes.

:clap8

Toy Ranch

05-16-2005, 04:46 PM

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I called you a fucktard because you have acted like a fucktard. It has nothing to do with hitting. I'm sorry if someone hit you.
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Yeah. I do and have and probably will continue to from time to time. But answer this, TR. Show me where I follow you or anyone around, or even stay at one board and continually respond to the NUMEROUS bullshit being flung about me? Once in a while, Ill respond. Most of the time, I try to get away from it, but Im followed. Isnt that fucktardism in its finest form in your opinion?

Thanks for saying youre sorry someone hit me. I am too.

Well, let's see... I don't follow you to any other board. I rarely read the other boards that are linked in threads here. Every once in a while, I have a comment in a thread here about you... but generally I don't... because I don't generally even know what is going on with you and your various schtuff.

As to other people following you to other boards... I am aware that this goes on some. As I have not kept account of all the things you have said or done to those folks, I don't really know what drives them to do it. Here is what I do know... people are not just singled out for the kind of vitriol that is constantly hurled in your direction by flip of a coin. I have seen plenty of stuff that you have done that is just way, way, way over the line to understand that you ultimately bear responsibility for your reputation and how you affect others.... but I also know that you rarely own any of that responsibility. Then you go out and do the same thing to someone else... which is basically like taking a huge dump all over any apology you issued to your last victim. If you are really sorry, you would not keep doing it.

So now here you are in this fix. You have a bunch of people who are just really furious with you... and who watch you do the same thing again and again that you did to them and maybe offered an obviously insincere apology for... or not... and so they follow you. To warn others, or to satisfy their curiosity that it wasn't really personal, or to exercise their own catharsis, or to exact revenge... or whatever. I don't know... but I do know that nobody has affected so many people on these boards in such a way as you have... and that is not something to be proud of... Hep, it's not "them"... it's you. At some point, you gotta face up to that. You can either set about to really change yourself, or you can accept yourself as you are... and learn to love that. But you can't keep blaming it on everyone else. You bought and paid for all that yourself. You own it now. Take that big pointy finger you have jutting out at everyone else, and point it in the mirror, because that is where it started, and that is the only place it can ever end.

blue kazooey

05-16-2005, 05:47 PM

To warn others, or to satisfy their curiosity that it wasn't really personal, or to exercise their own catharsis, or to exact revenge... or whatever.

Thank you, TR, for understanding that ... it's probably a combination of a couple of the above examples, and probably a different combination for each and every one involved, since we're all such different people ... and yes, some may follow - but most often it's kept right here at TRB, the common board for this ever-widening community ...

And the rest of the post, too ... that's all, just thank you ...

:gitter

oddish4

05-16-2005, 05:53 PM

I heart Toy Ranch.

krisinluck

05-16-2005, 05:58 PM

In an effort not to horrify either one of us, I won't go as far as Oddish...but I will say that was a fine rendering of the situation, TR.

oddish4

05-16-2005, 06:00 PM

:hug1

For everyone and big :kiss1 too

Now all I need is to pull Skitty into a group hug and my day will be complete

Zilvy

05-16-2005, 06:16 PM

Or your little bod could be covered with kitty xxxx's

Rawbunzel

05-16-2005, 06:24 PM

She'll need a doctor if she winds up with those xxx's from the cat...is there one in the house???

Zilvy

05-16-2005, 06:41 PM

The one that pins knees has gone to bed.

I am a GYN and Opthomologist, I do brain surgery as a hobby...but I don't do cat xxxx's...sorry

socrfan2

05-16-2005, 07:43 PM

Very well stated, Toyranch.

Catalogs

05-17-2005, 08:09 AM

For those that posted (or thought) that Julesy's comments were over the top.....

....do you really find these sentiments by Zilvy earlier in this thread acceptable?

hep acts like one of the boys, mouths off like a longshoreman, a male takes a swing at her....men do not respond well to verbal assault they have a tendency to react in a physical way. She wants to be one of the boys in the way she acts....well, there ya go!

Socrfan, my Mother was a very strong willed, intelligent woman. When she told my brother about the birds and bees she also admonished him in this fashion...A man NEVER strikes a LADY! The operative word was *Lady* (hep, loses)

Being the Female of the species does not make you untouchable, as you sew, so shall you reap! Ugly nasty demeaning nature, mouth out of control......POW, SOCKO, BAM!

There are other similar sentiments in the same portion of this thread, including the "justification" for a broken jaw.

I am with Julesy in her disgust for this venom. The day that I respond to a woman's verbal "assault" with physical violence, is the day that I should be incarcerated long term, along with every violent and unpleasant implication that jailing offers.

NO man has the right to hit a woman for whatever comes from her mouth. Words are just that - they do not justify broken bones and physical violence on either sex of the species. There is something hugely perverted in believing that if a woman runs off at the mouth, a man is justified in beating her up.

Zilvy, if your mother really did make such a distinction between lady and woman when educating your brother, then she is not nearly as intelligent or strong as you suggest. If she simply used the word "Lady" and you have read such a distinction, then you need to reconsider your own values.

I find it difficult to believe that some people here would accept that violence against a "mouthy" woman is justified, but feel welcome to let me know if my opinions on this subject are considered to be "outdated".

Kevin

Julesy

05-17-2005, 08:44 AM

I am sure that my being Jewish has nothing to do with your misspelling of my name, right, Zilvy? Or are you an anti-semite as well? Wouldn't shock me one bit.

mewsicmama

05-17-2005, 09:01 AM

Julesy and Kevin -

I'm glad to come in here this morning and see that I am not the only person who sees promoting the hitting of women as wrong. Thanks for speaking your hearts.

Shari

P.S. - If a man ever hit me like that, I'd probably go to prison because I've seen women who just "took it", and I damn sure would never fall into that category. I'm not as strong as a man but you can damn well bet that I can be a lot sneakier...

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:04 AM

Shalom Julesy....Thanks for sharing...I will speak with my Cousin the Rabbi and seek atonement. How would I know you were Jewish anymore than I would know what your sexual preferences were.

Catalogs, my mother did say that....here was what she was getting across like it or not and I liked her. If a female abuses you, hits you assaults you she is no lady...fair game.

Women in the service were not given special treatment.
Being Female does not preclude deserving a smack when she works to earn it.

I of course, have always condoned physical violence against ANYONE! NOT

I've been on these boards for 4 years and never referred to anyones sexual preference, religious or political views in a derogatory way. NEVER I don't kick dogs, pee on cats or have an agenda against anyone on the boards (with one exception) and I earned that entitlement with my own personal trial by fire.

So it would seem that *just words on a board* doesn't apply to everyone. I was being sarcastic, sardonic, tongue in cheek with a little exception for the NASTY hepburn. I will own my words during that word play. Thanks for sharing...nothing more to see here.....Til the next time!

mewsicmama

05-17-2005, 09:08 AM

Tra-la-la, just another beautiful spring day!

Try to have a great one everybody :cheer

Shari

sadie999

05-17-2005, 10:04 AM

JMO - I was taught that hitting someone smaller than I was wrong and put me in the bully category.

It's why I don't condone hitting children or pets.

Men and women have different musculature. Assuming approximately equal health, a 140 pound woman has about 70% the strength of a 140 pound man. So, even at equal weights, I think a man who hits a woman is a spineless bully. If she hits you, walk away. She's wrong, but that doesn't make you right for hitting back.

And where's the line? If a woman slaps a man in the face, does that make it ok for him to punch her in the jaw?

Hitting is stupid and juvenile. So is calling names. But of the two, the second rarely puts anyone in the hospital.

Violence as resolution is for lower life forms, no matter how accepted it is by our culture.

http://server1.inlandnet.com/~jilittle/hippy.gif, love and granola,
Sadie

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 10:52 AM

SMACK! So much for your granola...you little basket of sunshine!!

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 11:04 AM

I was on my knees when I smaked you, Sadie...so I was 16" shorter or 16" shorter or 4'8" with a really long reach!! :mad
I am learning anger management......<giggle>

sadie999

05-17-2005, 11:52 AM

:rofl3

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 12:39 PM

I was sooooo angry I misspelled smacked....so I guess you didn't feel it, right?

:hug1 Sadie, my buddy and carrier of sunshine (in her inside pocket) even when I be baad!

oddish4

05-17-2005, 01:04 PM

That's not where I heard the sunshine was kept :eek2

bladepusher

05-17-2005, 01:11 PM

Tart!

oddish4

05-17-2005, 01:19 PM

You only say that because I am.

bladepusher

05-17-2005, 01:36 PM

Liar Liar pants on fire!!!!!!!

:both

toollady

05-17-2005, 02:20 PM

Watch that polyester, it melts. ;)

sadie999

05-17-2005, 02:28 PM

(in her inside pocket)

:rofl3 You're killin' me. I've never heard it called that before! :rofl3

Peace,
SadieSunshine :lol

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 02:44 PM

When I was a girl and belonged to the "Brownies" precursor to becoming a girl scout....there was a song we used to sing....

I have something in my pocket...can you guess what it could be? I have something in my pocket (I can't remember the words) It's a great big Brownie Smile...

Sadie has sunshine....we had Brownie Smiles!! Eeehaw!

TurtleTrax

05-17-2005, 02:54 PM

Boy, Zilvy, you just brought back some memories...I, too was a brownie!

I have something in my pocket,
It belongs across my face
I keep it very close to me
In a most convenient place.

I'm sure you couldn't guess it
If you guessed a long, long while
So I'll take it out and put it on
IT'S A GREAT BIG BROWNIE SMILE!

(That's from memory, believe it or not, and not a c/p, so I may have a few words wrong - but I'm amazed I remember it at all!!)

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 02:58 PM

It belongs across my face

Do you realize the doors you have opened for Sadie, at this juncture, Turtle Trax?

That does sound right to me...good grief do they even have Brownies anymore or is it just GS?

zeldas

05-17-2005, 02:58 PM

I am sure that my being Jewish has nothing to do with your misspelling of my name, right, Zilvy? Or are you an anti-semite as well? Wouldn't shock me one bit.

Julesy that just doesn't belong in this argument. I have never known Zilvy to be anti-semite and you must know by now that I am jewish. Zil and i share plenty of jewish jokes, and sentiments together. Zil, shares a great long lasting & loving marriage with her hubby. Many young couples only wished to last as long together as they have.. Yes, she is a little spicy with her words , but could it be any worse than Hep's venom?
No, no woman deserves to be punched at I agree to that, but Hep does do a lot of manly bragging about how she has learned to punch back..... So what is your point?

blue kazooey

05-17-2005, 03:08 PM

Kevin,

Since I was posting up a storm yesterday, and was one of those that made a crack about julesy showing up wagging her finger, I will explain a bit ...

Julsey seems like an angry poster to me - I can't remember the last pleasant thing she contributed here (and I don't know where else, if anywhere, that she posts) ... so when she shows up, it's appears it's typically to tell somebody how inappropriately they're behaving ... So I vocalized my observation ... nothing more, nothing less ...

I find violence against anybody to be abhorrent ... that includes verbal violence as well as physical violence ... it's one of the reasons I rode my own high horse the other day about the derogatory terms being slung about ... but I did so in a general way, I didn't come out here and start pointing my finger at individuals, telling them how wrong they were ... I asked questions (much like you just did in your post up there) ... I'm not saying everybody has to do it my way - jeez would this place ever be full of nothing but really long-winded and boring posts if that were the case ...

Anyway, sometimes when we see a post and respond to it, we don't always make ourselves crystal clear ... I thought I'd give ya a little bit more of where I was coming from when I said what I said, because you asked ... julesy strikes me as an angry poster, at least when she pops in here at TRB ... I'm not sorry I mentioned it, and my saying it neither condones nor condemns zilvy's post previous ...

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 03:09 PM

Zei gezunt, Zelda!!
Oy gevalt, just a little meshuga bubkes!:jest

Julesy

05-17-2005, 03:58 PM

Well, Kazoo, you don 't know where else I post or what else I contribute. I spend most of my posting time on an ebay forum, usually helping buyers authenticate their potential purchases.

I'm assuming you post at other places as well. However, if I used your approach, and only considered your words here (as you have here, in calling me an "angry" poster), I would have to guess you are an "asshole" poster who makes it her mission to stalk another participant. :chip1

Zelda, whatever. I find the misspelling suspicious. Your take is different, for obvious reasons.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 04:01 PM

:rolleyes

r0ss

05-17-2005, 04:06 PM

Julesy is an oldtimer.

She is a long time friend of The Ross Show.

blue kazooey

05-17-2005, 04:27 PM

Julesy is an oldtimer.

Yes, Ross, I know ... I remember julesy from the whole aw, au, ar, etc chain of boards ... we were at all of those places ... all at the same time ...

Julesy, take it anyway you want ... Kevin asked a question, I answered as best I could ... I stated an opinion, that's all, based on what I've seen ... sorry it pissed you off (if it did) but I felt Kevin deserved an answer because he asked a reasonable question and so I told him why I had posted what I did ... doesn't mean I'm right, opinions aren't right a lot of the time ... if they were, they'd be called facts, I suppose ... I thought I'd made it clear that I was basing what I said solely on what I saw here, at TRB ... I probably didn't ...

Pamlur

05-17-2005, 04:40 PM

good grief do they even have Brownies anymore or is it just GS?

My oldest granddaughter just "bridged" up from Junior Girl Scout to Cadet Girl Scout, but the youngest isn't old enough to be interested in much except the cookie part, so I went to see. From the GS site:

Girl Scouts are divided into Daisy Girl Scouts (ages 5-6), Brownie Girl Scouts (ages 6-8) , Junior Girl Scouts (ages 8-11), and STUDIO 2BSM for girls ages 11-17.

Just a bit of useless trivia in an otherwise deep and engrossing thread.

Pamlur

05-17-2005, 04:42 PM

Great, a stupid smiley where it doesn't belong.

Anyway, that very last group is Cadet Scouts and Girl Scouts, I guess.

Julesy

05-17-2005, 05:47 PM

Ross, a *young* oldtimer. :kitty4

That's fine, Kazoo. I understand it was your opinion. Just as mine, about you, was an opinion of what I've seen of you here.

mewsicmama

05-17-2005, 06:45 PM

I too was a Brownie. What is even worse - my Mom was the troop leader!

chococake

05-17-2005, 07:27 PM

That was a weird remark. What does being Jewish have to do with anything?

Being in any of those scout organizations would have been the kiss of death where I grew up. :lol

Julesy

05-17-2005, 07:50 PM

Ask your friend. She's the one misspelling my name to that affect.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 07:58 PM

You ask me and Ill tell you sweetcakes.....Jewell was a take on the fact that you think you are a GEM that can come in and make a point. Bam, Socko Pow...like in the comic booksgo to hell Julesy (oops if you are Jewish there is no hell) hell would be here at TRB. Others are looking for it and Jules has found it.

By the way, Jules....PG and hepburn make each other smile (they said so at OCC) so you best be careful of your comments about PG or you'll have the wrath of hep on your doorstep. Now wouldn't that be fun?

Rawbunzel

05-17-2005, 08:03 PM

I just read all this thread and the first thing I thought of was that Zilvy was making a play on your name with a reference to jewels..not jews.I vaugely, now that you mention it, almost remember that you are jewish.I really doubt she was making an anti semetic remark.

Rawbunzel

05-17-2005, 08:05 PM

Hey! I was right!

I am truly a slow typist.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 08:12 PM

Yeah, Jules (whatever) was really reaching on that...she is building her anger and I was it! C'est la vie!

You are a slow typer but you are very astute and we all know the world needs more stutes!:wall

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:01 PM

Julesy that just doesn't belong in this argument. I have never known Zilvy to be anti-semite and you must know by now that I am jewish. Zil and i share plenty of jewish jokes, and sentiments together. Zil, shares a great long lasting & loving marriage with her hubby. Many young couples only wished to last as long together as they have.. Yes, she is a little spicy with her words , but could it be any worse than Hep's venom?

Zelda...your venom is the worst of all...you should be ashamed of yourself...:( shame on you.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:04 PM

You must be shootin' up tonight you idiot Troll! What the hell are you talking about?

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:06 PM

Did you and Hep make up, Mobak?

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:09 PM

Zilvy sure sounds anti-semite to me???

:liar3

sjot

05-17-2005, 09:10 PM

Motroll,

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but you're abusing the privilege.

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:11 PM

krisinluck...aren't you brave..:)

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:11 PM

And you sound like a clueless troll who gets spoon fed bullshit by Hep...yet you claim you aren't. Go figure.

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:13 PM

krisinluck...aren't you brave.. :) Not brave. Just looking to see how deep the bullshit is piled.

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:14 PM

Susan the "troll wabbit"?...

Really? who is the troll? tell me please?

bladepusher

05-17-2005, 09:14 PM

On your knees yet Mobak?

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:15 PM

Give her a break, Vin. She's checking the PMs for further info to attack with. And putting on the kneepads.

nanastuff

05-17-2005, 09:16 PM

Hiya Mo......are you ready to answer that question yet?

(now, don't play coy, ok?)

sjot

05-17-2005, 09:16 PM

Mobak, you are the troll without a home. Why do you insist on going where you are not wanted? I guess you love to be hated, eh? Hmm, now who does that remind me of? :jest

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:16 PM

Oh good lord Mo, thought you'd had some sort of epiphany. Apparently not.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:17 PM

You know I'd do anything for you Mobak....even if you are purple and a celtic druid and come from a planet far, far away.....so go over to OCC and speak to Flawedplan....she will let you in the quiet room and help you with your Identity Crisis!! Bwahahahha...

ramonaleona

05-17-2005, 09:18 PM

mobak - is your key stuck on...?

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:18 PM

Hey! What's wrong with Celtic Druids?

bladepusher

05-17-2005, 09:18 PM

She's experienced she doesn't need kneepads.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:18 PM

help you with your Identity Crisis!!

She's another St. Pizzle? Oh goody. :rolleyes

paleryder

05-17-2005, 09:20 PM

Lemme guess?....They bounced you out of chat, again, Mo?

:lol

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:21 PM

Not from here, PR. Unless she was in there as ToyRanch...

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:22 PM

I must hit a cord..with so many replies..:)

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:23 PM

...and no answer at all to the first question!

You and Hep make nice nice, Mobak? You back on the job?

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:23 PM

I must hit a cord

Why do you want to hit a cord? Sounds like you and Hep made up then - both into hitting. Bad bad Mobak troll.

newslady

05-17-2005, 09:23 PM

josey :both

Now, I command everyone in this thread to embrace the anger! Feel it. Become it.

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:23 PM

Oh...and it's "chord". Cord is like what you tie knots in. :)

sjot

05-17-2005, 09:23 PM

Mo, your parents are siblings, right?

bladepusher

05-17-2005, 09:24 PM

Queen browneye spaketh

I must hit a cord..with so many replies..

Or :****

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:24 PM

PR..not gone to chat. You miss me?

nanastuff

05-17-2005, 09:25 PM

no no....not cord.......TRIGGER!!

nanastuff

05-17-2005, 09:26 PM

Why won't you answer my question, Mo?

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:26 PM

CORD??????? Not very musical are ya, that would be chord! Unless you are hitting the ropes...are you a pugilist?
(That is not an anti anything comment, MOBY DORK)

Damn that hit you took on the head is coming back to haunt ya Mo, isn't it.

newslady

05-17-2005, 09:26 PM

Feel it. Be it.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:27 PM

TRIGGER!!

FOUND HIM!!!

http://www.wildwestweb.net/steeds/trigger.jpg

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:27 PM

Kris,

You and Hep make nice nice, Mobak? You back on the job?

What are you talking about?

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:31 PM

Hep, Guess you hooked me good...I see the light.p077.ezboard.com/fross98289ross.showMessage?topicID=3778.topic (http://p077.ezboard.com/fross98289ross.showMessage?topicID=3778.topic)

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:33 PM

So hard to remember the lies and keep them straight, huh Mo? You really have learned at the feet of your mistress, Hep.

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:43 PM

Dont you guys ever quit? Ever?

No, Mo and I are not kissy kissy. She "saw the light". I dont pm her. I dont email her. I dont "feed" her information any more than I feed Julesy or Larry or Katyd or Fop or anyone else that is sick of seeing you all be utter assholes. Just leave Mo alone. Or cant you? You just GOTTA have a target, dont you?

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:44 PM

Veddy intevesting....

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:45 PM

Oh what an interesting coinkydink.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:47 PM

Nobody bothered old MO til she came back to the ross board with her nasty comments...you ditzy dolt!

Go email Ross and complain...

Mobak

05-17-2005, 09:47 PM

Veddy intevesting....

Krisinluck..:beer1

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:48 PM

This shit reminds me of AR and AU. Big bashfests going on..twinsoft or Godzillatemple..and then here come the dancing fools...having a great old time. Lots of jokes, lots of laughs, lots of derailment with funzy shit. So what are you all trying to do? Cover your nasty selves with supposedly innocent funny posts to hide the real you? Yes.

So where is the dancing fools? Im sure they will be along shortly. Gotta have the cheerleading squad come in to show how "innocent" and "fun" you all are when its plain as day what you really are.

So here I am. Want me? Of course not. But you cant let me go either, can you? So Larry, Puzzlegoddess, Jamie, Mo, Robin, Bard...anyone that you think beneath you is fair game. They arent here. I am. Dish it. Ive taken it and Ill continue to take it because IM NOT YOU. And thats what gripes your asses, isnt it?

paleryder

05-17-2005, 09:48 PM

Mo sneaks out the back door and in walks Hep. :smokin

You're gonna slip up and out yourself, Hep.

How's Larry?

:lol

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:49 PM

Not much of a booze drinker, Mo. But thanks for the offer. How 'bout a :kool2 ?

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:50 PM

I dont know where Larry is, Wales. Why? You miss him or something?

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:50 PM

It's time to re open Bite My Butt, hep...you're lookin for a home so is Larry...go for it...you twit

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:51 PM

Those days you talk about missing? Yeah, it's like that. Just built up over a much longer period of time.

paleryder

05-17-2005, 09:53 PM

Yes, I was just gettin' comfortable with his posts at FP's board.

Now he's gone. Darn!

:lol

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:53 PM

I dont miss those days. I was blind then. Im not anymore. Hence not being part of your pack. And THATS another little piece of the puzzle isnt it? You cant bend me. You cant change me. You cant lead me.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:54 PM

SHOOFLY PIE

INGREDIENTS:
1 (9 inch) pie shell
1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 cup packed brown sugar
3 tablespoons butter flavored shortening
1 egg, beaten
1 cup unsulfured molasses
3/4 cup cold water
1 teaspoon baking soda
3/4 cup boiling water
1/2 cup semisweet chocolate chips

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DIRECTIONS:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
In a small bowl, mix together flour and brown sugar. Cut in shortening until mixture resembles coarse crumbs. Set aside 1 cup of this mixture for topping the pie.
In a large bowl, combine egg, molasses, cold water, and remaining crumb mixture. Mix thoroughly. Dissolve baking soda in boiling water and add to molasses mixture. Mix well.
Spread chocolate chips across bottom of pastry-lined pie pan. Pour filling over chocolate chips. Sprinkle reserved crumb mixture over top.
Bake in preheated oven for 45 to 55 minutes, until filling is set.

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:54 PM

Well, then youre going to have to hunt him down, arent you? Ross makes sure hes banned wherever he goes by having a hissy fit.

paleryder

05-17-2005, 09:55 PM

Damn Ross....He has his own board!

:lol

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 09:55 PM

:mad

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 09:56 PM

He brings it on himself, Hep. Ross doesn't make him post like a jackass. He does it all by himself.

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:57 PM

Larry says things that makes people uncomfortable because its dead on. And hes my friend. Thats enough to hate him, isnt it?

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 09:58 PM

Yes, Ross owns his own board. But he also owns everyone elses. He knows it. I know it. You know it. THEY know it.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 09:58 PM

http://www.epicurious.com/images/recipes/recipe_results/thumb/photos/108597.jpg

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 10:01 PM

Larry says things that makes people uncomfortable because its dead on.It's not *what* he says so much as how he says it. He is the Keeper of the Kindling, and he carries the matches. Equal opportunity asshole, pretty much.

Ross is Da Man! He owns all the EZBoards! LMAO!

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 10:03 PM

It's not *what* he says so much as how he says it. He is the Keeper of the Kindling, and he carries the matches.

Truth hurts? I hope he continues to carry the kindling and has shitloads of matches. He isnt alone, you know. Most of you just refuse to listen. Back to Truth Hurts.

paleryder

05-17-2005, 10:04 PM

Yes, Ross owns his own board. But he also owns everyone elses. He knows it. I know it. You know it. THEY know it.

That's cause he's tight with Demello....:lol

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 10:05 PM

You are delusional, Hep.

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 10:05 PM

Yep. He is. Must be nice.

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 10:07 PM

http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL700/2651285/5510103/76052187.jpg

r0ss

05-17-2005, 10:08 PM

Yes, Ross owns his own board. But he also owns everyone elses. He knows it. I know it. You know it. THEY know it.

King Chopo, recent FFoH, he lives in denial of it.

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 10:09 PM

lol!

*bowing to Da Man*

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 10:10 PM

He strikes me as a man who refuses to accept that a VIP of ezboards could be biased. Its impossible for him to accept it. Its right under his nose and he still refuses to see. Well...eventually he will be like mo and will see the light, wont he?

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 10:11 PM

*Bows to r0ss also*

Da Man. *smooch*

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 10:12 PM

All good things come to an end. Ill be here when it goes down. Guaranteed.

krisinluck

05-17-2005, 10:14 PM

Oooh, Ross! She's gonna shut down all of EZBoard!

I'll bring the popcorn...

Wicked Wench of the North

05-17-2005, 10:15 PM

I'll bring the male strippers.

Hepburn101

05-17-2005, 10:15 PM

Ill bring the meds.

Zilvy

05-17-2005, 10:22 PM

Your therapist isn't prescribing you any meds...your Therapist.....Butthead or Beevis????????Bwahahahaa

Catalogs

05-18-2005, 04:06 AM

Catalogs, my mother did say that....here was what she was getting across like it or not and I liked her. If a female abuses you, hits you assaults you she is no lady...fair game.

Women in the service were not given special treatment.
Being Female does not preclude deserving a smack when she works to earn it.

I of course, have always condoned physical violence against ANYONE! NOT

I've been on these boards for 4 years and never referred to anyones sexual preference, religious or political views in a derogatory way. NEVER I don't kick dogs, pee on cats or have an agenda against anyone on the boards (with one exception) and I earned that entitlement with my own personal trial by fire.

So it would seem that *just words on a board* doesn't apply to everyone. I was being sarcastic, sardonic, tongue in cheek with a little exception for the NASTY hepburn. I will own my words during that word play. Thanks for sharing...nothing more to see here.....Til the next time!
I do not accept that a woman is "fair game" for physical violence by a man if she has verbally abused him. I do accept that if a woman is physically attacking or abusing a man, he is entitled to defend himself, and even that (wrongly) things may escalate beyond there in the heat of the moment. But, in my rather naive view, a real man should usually be able to walk away or remove himself from the situation before needing to respond to a woman with physical violence.

I am commenting on your alignment with Basestealer, in using the "tongue in cheek" excuse for hate language in another thread.

Kevin

edited by ROSS Fixxing UBB error

Zilvy

05-18-2005, 05:43 AM

When you copy and paste, Kevin.....it would be a very good idea to get it right....I didn't give you permission to copy and paste my words. A link would have done you well. You managed to bastardize the quote by omitting the NOT after my italic statement! How convenient!

Catalogs

05-18-2005, 06:21 AM

Zilvy,
I do apologise for that. I had tried to keep the UBB consistant, but somehow the Underline and Bold did not work together on that post, in spite of it appearing to have worked on yours.

I did not mean to interfere with the text, and the word NOT was inadvertantly removed from the post.

Kevin

Catalogs

05-21-2005, 09:30 AM

Thanks Ross.

Zilvy

05-21-2005, 09:50 AM

Thanks, Ross......and Kevin.....look up Rule 11C please.

Only the Grand Poobah gets away with lifting full posts by C&P them. The common poster is relegated to links or maybe one line to give the jist of the post!

r0ss

05-21-2005, 10:04 AM

You CAN cut and paste ON THE SAME BOARD.

From board to board, or from other places to a board. THAT'S an 11c violation.

From the SAME BOARD is acceptable.

There are NO violations in this thread, Zilvy.

Zilvy

05-21-2005, 12:44 PM

There are violations in this thread, Zilvy

Toy Ranch

05-21-2005, 12:53 PM

www.ezboard.com/content/view/40/ (http://www.ezboard.com/content/view/40/)

11. MODIFICATION AND TERMINATION OF SERVICE
ezboard reserves the right at any time and from time to time to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Service (or any part of it) with or without notice. You agree that ezboard shall not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.

You agree that ezboard, in its sole discretion, may terminate your password, account (or any part of it) or ability to use the Service, and remove and discard any Content within the Service, for any reason or for no reason, including, without limitation, for lack of use, or for violating the letter or the spirit of this Agreement. You agree that any termination of your access to the Service may be immediate and without prior notice. You further agree that ezboard shall not be liable to you or any third-party for any termination of your use or ability to access the Service. Specific reasons for such limitation or termination include, but are not limited to the following:

(c) reproducing, distributing, republishing or retransmitting material posted by other ezboard members without the prior permission of such members.

Hmmm... doesn't say a word about different boards.

Zilvy

05-21-2005, 01:43 PM

That's how I read it, TR! I never threatened contacting Ezboard Legal, did I, Ross? Guess I am just not exotic enough!
******************************************

Kevin, try reading A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift if you want a really amazing introduction to Sardonic, Satiric and Tongue in Cheek!

art-bin.com/art/omodest.html (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html)

toollady

05-21-2005, 01:53 PM

JMNSHO,

If responding to someone's post, I don't see why it can't be referenced as part of the response - especially in a longazzed thread that takes twists and turns or when there is an edit function available and the original post may be pulled/changed.

Zilvy

05-21-2005, 02:06 PM

A link designating the page and content can be used...but all words are copyrighted by the poster who wrote them...just as an error was made in my rather lengthy post which totally changed the meaning of the italicized paragraph by omitting the word NOT...we are all at risk of having our words reproduced in error by whether by accident or design.

I believe the use of an opening line to bring attention to a link is considered to be okay, but not the whole post.

mivona

05-21-2005, 02:06 PM

I've always thought that Ezboard's policy on fair use of copyright material is pretty bizarre. Anyone should be able to quote, with attribution, what is here. As long as you don't claim the words as your own, I don't see what the problem is with quoting a post for commentary purposes.

toollady

05-21-2005, 02:47 PM

I agree Mivona.

Zilvy,

Not that Kevin needs my support, but having shared boards with him for years, I don't believe he meant to leave out a word when quoting, thus changing the meaning of your original post.

If not using UBB/EZ code on a regular basis, it's really easy to screw up and have part of post eaten/bastardized.

No one said you were reporting the (perceived) violation to EZLegal, but the reaction to your post being (mis)quoted (unintentionally), certainly led to the thought of it happening.

Zilvy

05-21-2005, 02:58 PM

My comment was to Ross regarding not threatening to go to EZboard....that's why I used his name, Toollady. Unlike some of his posters who use the tiniest infraction to go to Ezboard Legal.

Cripe no one reads what is written and god forbid we make a mistake there is no way to correct it on this board!

Didn't I say "whether by accident or design"? I am not accusing Kevin. I am not using foul language like some of Ross' old friends, I am trying to make a BLOODY point of how errors are made and TOS are being ignored!

r0ss

05-21-2005, 02:59 PM

I don't believe he meant to leave out a word when quoting, thus changing the meaning of your original post.

He didn't. He muffed up UBB, it was plain to see he wanted the NO to be bolded and underlined.

Clearly that was his intent.

This is a non-fight.

I didn't even notice the difficulty until Zilvy sent me a SECOND email today (I missed the first, who knows how I missed it, but I did)

I apologize for being an inattentive board owner.

Come on, Zilvy. Kevin is "friend, not foe". He didn't mean to mis-quote you.

toollady

05-21-2005, 03:57 PM

Zilvy,

If it wasn't your intent to make it an issue, then why even mention it the way you did?

More than one Ross Show viewer is seeing it as a hissy fit.
*shrug* I have no dog in this fight, so I guess I'll just go back to my seat and continue viewing the show.

Popcorn anyone?
:jerry

Catalogs

05-21-2005, 11:18 PM

I posted the section of a post addressed to me (the post started off addressing Julesy) ... but it was close enough to the full post.

The reason that linking to a page is not necessarily suitable, is that various people have different settings on this board. The default, from memory, is 20 posts to a page. My own settings are 40 posts to a page. I think I have seen reference here to other people using both 30 and 50 posts to a page. The post is on page 3 of this thread for me, but page 6 for some other readers, and a different page again for others.

I learned the culture of quoting on OAI boards - particularly AuctionWatch (not to be confused with the later but much more originally named "The Auction Watch" ). Whilst every OAI board seems to find quoting earlier posts acceptable, either within the same thread or "appropriately" from a related thread on the same forum, I am at fault for not having read the rules of EZ Board in full (as partly quoted by Toy Ranch above). If this really is the intention of EZBoard's rules, they probably should remove the quote function from their UBB system.

Kevin

Solar Destroyer

05-21-2005, 11:35 PM

To quote or not to quote, that is the question. - Solar Destroyer, 2005.

And you can quote me on that! :jest

Catalogs

05-22-2005, 12:14 AM

Zilvy,
A comparison between your posts early in this thread, and the writings of Jonathan Swift that you have linked to, is ludicrous. The most comparable writer on these boards, for presentation and use of a reversed humour, would be Reston Ray on OTWA with some of his Ebay Nation and Queen Meg posts. The subject of the material is far different, but the delivery and use of irony has similarities.

An essential element of dark humour, satire, irony or wit, used in the way that you suggest is "humour". Your posts early in this thread that suggest that men tend to react to verbal assaults physically are delivered with viciousness not humour. With the exception of the parady of a Mastercard commercial, there is nothing about the delivery that can be considered satirical. The message sent, is not one suggesting that if things were allowed to be carried to an extreme that violence would be acceptable - your message through those posts is that violence on a loud mouthed woman is acceptable. It is hate speech, not sardonic irony.

Clever, though, waiting until someone else proved that I am not allowed to quote you at all, before drawing such a ludicrous comparison to defend your hateful posts.

Kevin

Toy Ranch

05-22-2005, 04:30 AM

I went to the rules page in order to quote the rule to Zilvy, noting that it was perfectly OK to quote someone on the same board, and discovered for the first time that it is not... by the letter of the EzRule. I thought the previous interpretation of the rule (that absolutely NO quoting was allowed... in part or whole... from one EzBoard to another without permission) was absurd, but seeing the rule in it's full light simply amplifies it's absurdity. What if every one of us went to every EzBoard upon which we have ever posted and been quoted, and started reporting each quote as an 11c? Would that be enough to secure a revision to the rule, which allowed actual "fair use" ?

sadie999

05-22-2005, 05:15 AM

Any chance the PTB at ez could combine their IQs and realize that rule 11c is more hurtful than useful?

Oops, just indulging in wishful thinking.

blue kazooey

05-22-2005, 06:14 AM

(c) reproducing, distributing, republishing or retransmitting material posted by other ezboard members without the prior permission of such members.

Don't you suppose that when they wrote that they were doing what they thought was a standard disclaimer, typical for copyrighted materials ...

I hardly consider most of what is said on these boards to be 'material' (except maybe schlock comic material in a few cases), and I bet they had no clue about the mess they'd someday have to deal with, over what probably seemed 'standard contractual mumbojumbo' ...

So first the complaints roll in about quoting from another ezboard ... sooner or later the complaints will roll in from the same ezboard ... and perhaps someday, the same thread ...

OMG, it's beginning to sound like it has real AW 'burn the mods at the stake' potential ... and some folks here have had 5 or 6 years to hone their skills ... :rofl3

If the purpose of these boards is communication, isn't it simply more effective communication to be able to reference, via properly attributed quotation, the words you are responding to, rather than risk the misquote in paraphrase?

(all that being said, I don't believe private boards should be quoted to public boards, but then I don't think private conversations are public fodder, either - none of that confidential stuff should be public information, whether it arrives in email, telephone conversation, IM, PM ... AM ... or the middle of the night - however, all that gets into ethics, and you can't force someone to behave in an ethical manner)

Sometimes what seems like a good idea at the time, just isn't ...

sadie999

05-22-2005, 07:33 AM

If the purpose of these boards is communication, isn't it simply more effective communication to be able to reference, via properly attributed quotation, the words you are responding to, rather than risk the misquote in paraphrase?

Exactamundo.

Solar Destroyer

05-22-2005, 07:37 AM

But paraphrasing is SO mcuh more interesting. Ross is especially good at it. :lol

blue kazooey

05-22-2005, 08:04 AM

Agreed. Ross does give good paraphrase ...

Zilvy

05-22-2005, 08:39 AM

Humour, humor for laughs? NOWHERE did I state that I was trying to be humorous....I doubt that Jonathan Swift was being humorous.

Methinks that downunder and state side have two very widley divergent ideas of what is FUNNY! I wasn't trying to be funny.

When anyone C&P they better get it all right or at least request the board owner correct their error (whether by design or accident) Because further down the line some fool will go to the archives pull up the quote done in error and claim it is TRUE!

SATIRIC implies that the intent of the ridiculing is censure and reprobation.
SARDONIC implies scorn, mockery, or derision that is manifested by either verbal or facial expression:
Tongue in Cheek characterized by insincerity, irony, ......exactly what I did regarding hepburns "Assault"

I was mocking the situation, I was ridiculing the assault and found it all ironic!

Catalogs

05-22-2005, 09:35 AM

You are full of Bullshit!

Toy Ranch

05-22-2005, 10:26 AM

what toollady said...

toollady

05-22-2005, 09:19 PM

Passing the popcorn to TR.

Didya bring drinks or do I need to get up and get some?

Catalogs

05-23-2005, 03:48 AM

www.hyperdictionary.com/d...e-in-cheek (http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/tongue-in-cheek)

Tongue-in-cheek:
Synonyms: bantering, banteringly, facetious, facetiously, humorous, humourous, jokingly

Toy Ranch

05-23-2005, 04:35 AM

OK, OK... I'll get the pitcher of Mai Tai's and the little umbrellas... :neko5

Zilvy

05-23-2005, 08:52 AM

Main Entry: tongue-in-cheek
Function: adjective
Date: 1933
: characterized by insincerity, irony, or whimsical exaggeration

© 2001 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

AMAZING CATALOGS.....THERE ARE CHOICES...

Yesterday when you said to Zilvy: You are full of bullshit it sounded like Mr. Hand was close to being Mr. Fist...did you have to pull some punches, Jiminy Cricket?

Catalogs

05-23-2005, 10:05 AM

Nope.

citnalta

05-23-2005, 10:05 AM

Sounded like...

:irollers2

Then try adjusting the volume.

TurtleTrax

05-23-2005, 10:28 AM

:eek
It's like the song that never ends!

Julesy

05-23-2005, 11:36 AM

Yesterday when you said to Zilvy: You are full of bullshit it sounded like Mr. Hand was close to being Mr. Fist...did you have to pull some punches, Jiminy Cricket?

Talking in the third person, Zilvy? Who are you trying to emulate more...PG or the Bard?
Also, I hope you're not trying to insinuate against Kevin what I think you are. Talk about pulling punches.

Fucktard. :neko8

TurtleTrax

05-23-2005, 12:10 PM

Also, I hope you're not trying to insinuate against Kevin what I think you are. Talk about pulling punches.I missed that (because I haven't been reading all of Zilvy's posts in this thread - most of them don't make sense to me).

Zilvy, if that's what you were in any way implying, I sure hope Kevin gets an apology from you - and quickly. This thread has gone way too far.

socrfan2

05-23-2005, 01:13 PM

What Julesy and Dale said.

Zilvy has one trait in common with her great antagonist, Hepburn -- both of them, when they hit rock bottom and should be thinking about how to get out of the hole they dug themselves into, have a tendency instead to just keep digging the hole deeper.

Bard77

05-23-2005, 01:24 PM

Julesy

Talking in the third person, Zilvy? Who are you trying to emulate more...PG or the Bard?

Wtf? Julesy

:rofl3

citnalta

05-23-2005, 01:52 PM

I sure hope Kevin gets an apology from you - and quickly.

http://tinypic.com/5ca8ee

It must take a bit of time & thought, to cleverly disguise a witty apology, so as not to leave any egg on the face.
http://<img src=[/img]

TurtleTrax

05-23-2005, 02:05 PM

...when they hit rock bottom and should be thinking about how to get out of the hole they dug themselves into, have a tendency instead to just keep digging the hole deeper.

Thank you, Leon (hoping it's okay that I called you by your first name - that's not an 11c rule or anything is it ;) )? That thought was rolling around in my head, and I was trying to verbalize it when I posted, but it just wouldn't come to me.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

(Cit, I LOVE that "finger drumming" smiley!)

Toy Ranch

05-23-2005, 03:42 PM

Sigh...

In reviewing this whole ridiculous brouhaha... I think Zilvy was initially trying to post as she feels Hep might have posted in that situation, as a satire, albeit a very clumsy attempt at one. When Zilvy's satire wasn't apparent, and Zilvy started getting the same type of negative attention that Hep gets for the same activity, she got upset and indeed started digging the hole deeper (trying to give a "no fault" excuse/explanation instead of just apologizing and moving on...).

Zilvy, please, just realize that YOU fucked up and act accordingly...