flawedplan
08-27-2005, 10:15 AM
http://www.fantagraphics.com/inquiry/f20.jpg
rOss,
I just spent two hours on this post and the thing came up and said too many images, what the fuck! So I copied half the post to cut and paste in word and do a totem, but it got lost. What is this limit thing about? Can you get rid of it!?
Here is a niggardly version of my original, booming fo shizzle post:
Who has any thoughts on comics in general? Do you read them, what's your favorite, do you think comics are serious literature or not, who do you consider classic comics artists, who are the spoilers, and so on...
One favorite for me is Art Spiegelman's MAUS: Working-Through The Trauma of the Holocaust--The Intentional Subversion of Genre and Cultural Norm...
http://www3.iath.virginia.edu/holocaust/mauscover.gif
Maus is the use of a traditionally "low" genre -- the comic strip or book --for serious, grave material. It is a conscious, intentional inversion of a norm, a hierarchy, a cultural order. It is a very "strong" (in the Bloomian sense) rereading of one survivor's tale and the transmission or testimony of this tale to the son; it is at the same time a strong revamping or reconsideration of the generic possibilites of the "comic" itself.
http://www3.iath.virginia.edu/holocaust/spiegelman.html
Also:
http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/clowes/velvetglove.jpg
Like A Velvet Glove Cast In Iron
Dan Clowes's epic exporation of the seamy underbelly of America makes Twin Peaks look like Captain Kangaroo. Some of the images in this story will haunt you forever: murder, mutilation, pornography, madness, and death, all subjected to Clowes's cool, appraising gaze.
http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/sacco/defeatist.jpg
The centerpieces in Notes from a Defeatist are a triptych of war stories: "When Good Bombs Happen to Bad People," a history of aerial bombing that specifically targets civilian populations; "More Women, More Children, More Quickly," in which Sacco relates his mother's harrowing experiences during World War II in Malta; and, most personally (and closest to Sacco's later work), "How I Loved the War," Sacco's impassioned but sardonic reflection on the Gulf war, the surrounding propaganda and media circus, and his own ambivalent feelings as both a spectator and commentator.
That's it, that's all this post could accomodate, I haven't even begun to explore the genre, much less my favorite, most essential and banned artist, is there room on this board for Professor Phoebe Gloeckner? Apparently not! Two hours down the drain, is it me, am I doing something wrong? Bother! Fuck! So much for saving the best for last!
love,
Robin
You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.
rOss,
I just spent two hours on this post and the thing came up and said too many images, what the fuck! So I copied half the post to cut and paste in word and do a totem, but it got lost. What is this limit thing about? Can you get rid of it!?
Here is a niggardly version of my original, booming fo shizzle post:
Who has any thoughts on comics in general? Do you read them, what's your favorite, do you think comics are serious literature or not, who do you consider classic comics artists, who are the spoilers, and so on...
One favorite for me is Art Spiegelman's MAUS: Working-Through The Trauma of the Holocaust--The Intentional Subversion of Genre and Cultural Norm...
http://www3.iath.virginia.edu/holocaust/mauscover.gif
Maus is the use of a traditionally "low" genre -- the comic strip or book --for serious, grave material. It is a conscious, intentional inversion of a norm, a hierarchy, a cultural order. It is a very "strong" (in the Bloomian sense) rereading of one survivor's tale and the transmission or testimony of this tale to the son; it is at the same time a strong revamping or reconsideration of the generic possibilites of the "comic" itself.
http://www3.iath.virginia.edu/holocaust/spiegelman.html
Also:
http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/clowes/velvetglove.jpg
Like A Velvet Glove Cast In Iron
Dan Clowes's epic exporation of the seamy underbelly of America makes Twin Peaks look like Captain Kangaroo. Some of the images in this story will haunt you forever: murder, mutilation, pornography, madness, and death, all subjected to Clowes's cool, appraising gaze.
http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/sacco/defeatist.jpg
The centerpieces in Notes from a Defeatist are a triptych of war stories: "When Good Bombs Happen to Bad People," a history of aerial bombing that specifically targets civilian populations; "More Women, More Children, More Quickly," in which Sacco relates his mother's harrowing experiences during World War II in Malta; and, most personally (and closest to Sacco's later work), "How I Loved the War," Sacco's impassioned but sardonic reflection on the Gulf war, the surrounding propaganda and media circus, and his own ambivalent feelings as both a spectator and commentator.
That's it, that's all this post could accomodate, I haven't even begun to explore the genre, much less my favorite, most essential and banned artist, is there room on this board for Professor Phoebe Gloeckner? Apparently not! Two hours down the drain, is it me, am I doing something wrong? Bother! Fuck! So much for saving the best for last!
love,
Robin
You have included too many images in your signature or in your previous post. Please go back and correct the problem and then continue again.