JAMMIE: STILL KICKED OFF Amazon! STILL No Clue!

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http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=39619.1&ctx=0

Greetings from Amazon.com.

This message is to inform you that we have blocked your Amazon.com
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We took this action because we have mutiple reports inappropriate email
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While we appreciate your interest, the blocking of your account is a
permanent action. Please understand that we take such steps in the
interest of maintaining a free and fair venue for all participants.

Regards,


This was from a buyer who left feedback without emailing first.

I will publish all of the emails if Amazon hasn't rectified this by Monday.

I sincerely believe that this is someone at Amazon pulling a stunt based on recent events.

I have been selling here since 1999 and what they have done is shameful.

I will do whatever I have to rectify my good name.

Lawyers, media. If that's what Amazon wants this is what will happen.

One day at a time. One email at a time. One lawyer at a time. One Senator at a time. One government agency at a time.

This is the straw that broke the camel's back.

It's time for Amazon to start to answer for its actions.

[KatieP]

Forgive me is I've missed something, but is it now an Amazon rule that a buyer must email the seller prior to leaving feedback (presumably negative)?

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Some replys:

There is a God.
Why not air the whole issue now on the boards? Why wait until Monday?

I really don't want to sound mean... but.. with a 78% feedback rating - what good name was that?

sorry, kiddo. better luck in your next endevor.



YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Amazon sticks to their decision!!!!!!!!!

Keep him off!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Puuuuuuuuhhhhhhhlllllleeeeaaassse!

Haven't we had enough sniveling, whining and bellyaching from this yahoo????? I've endured it for almost 3 years and finally blew a gasket.

Amazon has endured this jerk for 6 years--I'm surprised it took this long to finally boot his ass (I was beginning to think he had some pictures of Jeff and a goat).

I've never seen a more sorry example of a seller.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass HOV. Good riddence!

JAMMIE finally posts back, after a flurry of Negative Bash Jammie comments:


Jay shame on you.

I was one of the best video sellers on Amazon.

This was a stunt by someone in Amazon.

It's corporate. You always get fired on Fridays.

Maybe it had something to do with me pointing to the right gov't agency to contact regarding bootlegging?

Or exposing Amazon.ca not issuing payments?

Or the chargeback issue.

It isn't about my ability or service as a seller.

This is crossing the line and the sad thing is that most sellers who know the truths here won't post in this thread as freely as certain petty trolls

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Forgive me is I've missed something, but is it now an Amazon rule that a buyer must email the seller prior to leaving feedback (presumably negative)?

No such rule. On Amazon, nor on Ebay.

Jammie is an awful seller, with no qualms about being an asshole to a customer.

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More Jammie Bashing Comments:

Dude, Amazon isn't going to kick you off unless they have a damn good reason. Period.

You are NOT one of the best VHS sellers on the site. Period.

Now, if you'd just stop posting on this board, my life would be complete.

Period.

Jammie posts a vow:

They are trying to get rid of the evidence.

We old timers have seen a lot.

They picked on the wrong old timer. Not too many can survive what I have on this site and in life.

Amazon is going to lose this one.

Again, every penny they cost me will cost them a lot more.

[TurtleTrax]

Doesn't look like he's getting a whole lot of sympathy over there. <Big surprise.>

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More Jammie Bashing Comments:

You're funny as hell.

Amazon's lawyers will pummel you, plain and simple.

And the media? They aren't going to touch poison like you.

As soon as they see the bad feedback rating and the terrible comments you make to buyers, they're not going to touch a hair on your balding head.

If you were a reputable seller with good feedback, it would be different.


It was probably your angry email(s) to customers which got you booted.

Many people here have repeatdly warned you to spend more time improving your customer service instead of wasting time and energy trashing Amazon and your customers.

I look forward to seeing the emails you sent to your customer(s).



Do you have any responsibility for what has happened? Customer Service and Courtesy are #1 in a business. If you own your own business you can do as you please. As a 'guest' of Amazon be though we pay, we are expected to treat our customers in a manner that even if they are rude we don't react inappropriately.

Amazon is going to look after themselves first... Make a customer angry they tell ten more people. Think of the multiples of people who don't buy because of customer service. Then think of people who are so happy with the service they come back again and again and tell others how wonderful they were treated.

Not everyone is cut out to be a service oriented provider. That's what we are providing a product. We are here for the customer, they aren't here for us.

I really hope and deny the fact that people like the House of VHS made Amazon what it is. His deplorable customer service, feeling and treating his customers as idiots, and his constant bitching about unfairness and conspiracy while not taking any responsibility for his poor performance. If he was one of the people who made Amazon what it is they wouldn't have any customers at all.



Jamie is a blight, plain and simple, that Amazon finally removed.

My mother taught me to be honest with my feelings and that's what I'm doing.

All the threads he's started, all the "conspiracies", the bad feedback, the nasty customer comments.

He should have been removed long ago.

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No sympathy at all, and no support.

Doesn't look like he's getting a whole lot of sympathy over there. <Big surprise.>

Oh, there's one post that says:

Sorry to hear this news. I don't believe it's appropriate to celebrate another person's misfortune.

While I don't agree with all of your business practices and think you could have been a better Amazon seller, I do believe that you have contributed a lot of value to this community over the years.

Good luck and best wishes in whatever you choose to do with your time.

I do believe that your best bet might be a heart to heart conversation with whomever's ear you have at the Big River and not a public broadcast of your ire.

Threats don't make anyone warm and fuzzy and eager to help.

Take care.

Followed by THIS reply:

I don't believe it's appropriate to celebrate another person's misfortune.

Hiya Trish,

While that statement is usually true, in HOV he brought his misfortune on himself. Yes, it's unfortunate. But not unexpected.

Be good,

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More:

why would we want to contact you? There are multiple posts regarding your feedback and your ideas of customer service. You reap what you sow





And yes, I think it's unkind to celebrate an occasion which will no doubt cause many problems in another person's financial future.

Yes, you're exactly right! You're also exactly right when you said we reap what we sow.

I know online selling is Jamie's income. But I also know, from his SCADS of posts on this board, that he doesn't treat customers well when there's a problem. He's been known to accuse them of extortion and I think he's also called them names, as well as inappropriate email contact.

This is not my primary income, but it's a good chunk of it. But I try NOT engage in such behavior, customer service is important to me.

We do reap what we sow...Jamie got exactly what was coming to him.

This is private enterprise. Amazon sets the rules here, not lawyers, media, senators or any other government agency. They don't have to answer to you for anything.

You are welcome to raise all the stink you like but that's all it will do . . . stink.

My best guess is you'll fume for a while and move on. You did the same thing every other seller who's been booted has done - come back and post a bunch of idle threats and then no one ever hears from them again.

Sucks to be you! Let it go and find another venue.

And yes, I think it's unkind to celebrate an occasion which will no doubt cause many problems in another person's financial future.

Trish--I truly respect you, but I have a different take on this situation. HOV is running 14% neg and 4% neutral of the people who bother to leave FB--that means HOV has managed to piss off 18% of his customers. So take 1% off of that if you want to factor in the truly "unfair" FB he's gotten--because I don't think it's more than that.

That still leaves almost 17% of his customers that may never return to Amazon. But again, that's only the tip of the iceberg because as we all know, only about 10% of buyers even leave FB. That's potential money out of MY pocket and could harm my financial future. So, yeah, I'm quite happy to see a blight on Amazon gone--and hopefully for good.

It's nice to have some friendly cammraderie on these boards, but at the end of the day we're all tapping from the same customer pool--when a seller sullies that pool it does a HUGE disservice to Amazon and the MP sellers.

And frankly in the almost 3 years I've been here, I've never seen HOV offer any advice that was worthwhile--anytime he responded to an inquiry I ever had it was usually the wrong answer (which isn't at all surprising).

Every 6 months he talks about selling out--well, maybe this is the POSITIVE step in the right direction for him. If he's smart he'll find some other income stream which he's better suited for and that doesn't involve customer service skills which he so clearly lacks.

And lastly anyone that wants to air his dirty laundry on a public discussion board deserves every flame he gets. Just like I open myself to with this post.

Yes, I'm harsh and I generally avoid personal attacks but HOV finally sent me over the edge when he was bragging about using "Free" UPS shipping lables and other unsavory shenningans like listing under "collectable" when they clearly are not. This is not a good seller and I offer no apologies or sympathy for his demise. As always, JMHO.

Cheers,

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More stuff:


It's time for Amazon to start to answer for its actions.

Perhaps they are simply responding to YOUR actions. Why did you post this anyway? Were you hoping to get support? Board members have told you repeatedly to clean up your act and tried to offer you advice on how to do so. Your response was always to insist you were being attacked by trolls and feedback bombers.

I think Amazon has a pretty high tolerance level overall. There was probably much more than just this one clash with a customer that brought your closure. I don't know for sure but I suspect you probably had a pretty high A-Z claim rate and IF you did, you were costing Amazon big bucks. You never really seemed all that eager to resolve issues you had with customers. Based on various threads you started, it almost seemed to me that you went out of your way to make a bad situation worse.

This door has closed and that is the end of your Amazon contract. You need to remember that when you sell on a site that is not your own, you need to abide by their rules and follow their guidelines. You are representing their name. Constant problematic sellers are not good for the overall site reputation. Customer service is an important aspect of that representation.

I do hope you will take this lesson with you to your next endevor. If you continue on the path of "everybody is out to get me", it will eventually come true. You imagined far more enemies than you actually had.

I just read his feedback and am in shock how he managed to stay on Amazon so long.
His feedback:

http://www.amazon.com/seller/house_of_vhs


I do believe this event, combined with your bizarre rantings about a secret society of buyers (who aren't really buying but are "out to get you") does tell the whole story.

Marginal feedback, at best.

Verbal combat with Amazon's customers.

A pattern of this craziness, over and over for years.

Sorry guy, but I do believe you finally got what you had coming to you.

Funny, for all your feedback cla,moring, it was the customer service that got you sacked.

Customer service, as in the customer is always right, and you never fight them tooth and nail for $5 or a few stars.

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Jammie replys:

Sadly I'm not surprised by how this thread is gone.

And as another poster suggested it's a gross reflection on some of you.

After six years of selling here Amazon has terminated my relationship with them.

They did it via Corporate behavior 101 - do the dirty on a Friday afternoon so that nothing can really happen over the weekend.

I was not terminated for my fb record because the fb system here is a sham.

They didn't even have the courage to point to any particular issue.

I don't use abusive language or break the TOS when I communicate with my customers.

I am one of the best sellers on this board who simply has had fb attacks of which there are many many other examples of other sellers also recieving such attacks.

Amazon has also chosen to basically steal my funds for 90 days without paying interest.

If I had terminated our agreement then they possibly could have a leg to stand on by taking such an action.

I'm sure the lawyers will have much fun with this case. From conversations last night I probably have as many as six issues to file suit for.

The fact of the matter is that in the last month I outed Amazon regarding illegal chargebacks (both of which were returned to me) that was a very large black eye to them.

Remember that Amazon still hasn't responded to the policy of chargebacks and while they have returned my funds they have jacked many other sellers who didn't take to this board.

I have outed them for not paying out Amazon.ca customers for the first half of December which they didn't even email a reply to me over.

And then yesterday I posted a link to a government agency that protects us from bootleggers.

Obviously I didn't make myself any friends this past month at Amazon.

Add in the years of protesting Amazon's feedback system that only now many of you are picking up on and I think a clear picture of my termination comes into view.

I don't expect the "Usual Suspects" on this board to agree with me.

Again, if you want to have a flame fest enjoy.

Many of us Old Dino's are being removed from Amazon.

I have endured the beating to stay here as a badge of honor. I felt that no matter how sleazy Amazon was I'd stay because I did help build this place in my own tiny way. I certainly earned my place here.

tbc

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Jammie, again:

ctd..

I've also been asked why I didn't sue Amazon before, or why other sellers may not have.

Well over 50% of my online income comes from Amazon.

The sleaze that did that at Amazon knew this.

I have made large purchases of inventory for the xmas rush.

Pulling my plug the Friday before xmas is pretty heinous, not that Amazon has ever been "nice" about anything.

No, my termination is payback and a warning to those who have had the balls to oppose Amazon's behaviors.

This is going to cost me thousands of dollars and has nothing to do with my customer support skills.

Think about it for a second. Of all the things to terminate me for they come up with this trumped up bit of bogus?

So who's next? Joanne has been pretty lippy. She's been around a long time and posted those slides during the last conference.

Maybe all of the sudden she said the wrong thing to an unidentified customer?

Perry? He's leading the charge to change the fb system.

Sosrg prooved mathematically how flawed fb is, or maybe Avisdistribution?

I'm going to take most of this weekend off and chill.

My honey just got home after being at a sales conference for a week.

Monday I start calling the lawyers and building a battle plan.

Amazon has prejudiced my business. They have damaged me punitively.

Sure it'll take years to resolve if the lawyers do it, but I'm a very patient person.

In the meanwhile I have boycotts to initiate; letters to write; and maybe just maybe I'll finally do that protest in front of the nasdaq.

None of this is personal, except maybe to the sleazes at Amazon that did this attack.

It's business. Amazon has deprived me and my family of half our income during the xmas rush. And December historically has been the busiest month for me.

Surely they will have no complaint if I work within the system to share with the public how Amazon works?

Again, remember, today it's my turn. Tomorrow it may be yours.

There are laws. There are rules. Even for big companies like Amazon.

Happy Sales everyone,

and have a safe and happy holiday,

Jamie

And again

No Keith, I shared with another old dino when the chargeback issue started that Amazon would most likely do this.

I know they had targeted me.

I'm surprised they are doing this in such a flimsy and arrrogant manner.

The lawyers will enjoy this case. I won't, but they will :)

We're talking about punitive actions and financial damages by Amazon.

I also think they will not legally be able to stand on holding my funds without interest when they initiate a termination.

Especially since they didn't put them back in my Amazon account.

If I want to refund the buyers I owe items from I basically have to do that out of my own pocket (Amazon charging my cc) while Amazon holds my funds that the customers paid.

Also, it's hard for Amazon to defend me for any buyer claims when they themselves have acted in such a prejudicial manner against me?

It's like asking the person that mugged you to defend you in court!

No, this is ugly and flawed. It's going to cause me a lot of hardship.

And why? Because I hit a nerve and said things that exposed some of Amazon's failings and chicanery?

It certainly wasn't over my ability as a seller. I'm not suggesting that I was the best of sellers, but I sure was good enough for over 10,000 transactions on Amazon in six years.

It's just disgusting and hopefully I'll patiently fight it out.

I emailed back Alliance and jeff@amazon.com

I don't expect much back from them, but I know that at Amazon internally people have different opinions and I'm sure there are people at Amazon totally disgusted by what whoever did this has done.

I may be a loud mouth, but I certainly would stack my integrity up against Amazon's any day.

[10x]

He is his own worst enemy.

[sadie999]

Dude, Amazon isn't going to kick you off unless they have a damn good reason. Period. This is actually bullshit, and from what I understand, once they cancel your account, it takes an act of congress to reinstate you. Even people that sound like perhaps there was a mistake on Amazon's part end up finding somewhere else to sell their wares.

Jamie is a blight, plain and simple, that Amazon finally removed. This is closer to the truth. :1rotfl1:

You know, Jammie's desperate need for attention is what gets him fucked everytime - he's incredibly self-destructive. Here's the thing: psychologically and just plain beginning business sense - if there's a problem with a company that holds all the cards, which is smarter?
a. Dealing with your problem one-on-one w/a customer service or technical rep or
b. Posting unprofessionally worded rants on a message board?

I'm sorry, but it just doesn't take a genius to figure this out. And Jammie didn't start selling four or five months ago, so unless he's a complete idiot (which I don't think is the case) or has a pathological need for attention even negative (which I do think is the case), he should have figured this out long ago.

He hasn't changed a single bit. He's still the same little stinkboy that blames everyone else for the crap in his pants.

Jammie, as always:
:You_Smell

[Powerhouse]

Wow. And here I was thinking just this morning that we haven't heard anything about Jamie in awhile, and thinking that it was a good thing, and that maybe he had finally gotten himself straightened out, or just left the OAI completely, but guess you can't teach "Old Dino's" new tricks.

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[socrfan2]

Gee, Ross, I thought you and Toyranch and everyone else who "sabotaged the co-op" or who ever criticized Jamie were secretly on ebay's payroll.

Maybe it turns out to have been a vast OAUA-TRB-OTWA-Amazon conspiracy all along? :1kool1-ai

Sheesh, what a whiner.

[Toy Ranch]

God I hope he finds himself a good lawyer... you know the kind...

"Yes Jammie, you DO have a case. You will own Jeff Bezos' ASS. Uhh... I need a $5000 retainer to get started."

:1chirol_c

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http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=39619.81

HOV said, "I am one of the best sellers on this board who simply has had fb attacks of which there are many many other examples of other sellers also recieving such attacks."

I have had you on ignore for more than a year, but opened your posts to see what this thread was about.

I wish you no ill will -- particularly since during the past 2-3 years that you have participated on these boards you have dramatically improved your feedback average, and I know that is not an easy thing to accomplish.

I must say, though, that your statement quoted above is simply proof that your perception of reality is badly skewed. Neither can you support your wild assertions of Amazon being out to get the dinos (I've been here longer than you); that you are one of the best video sellers (I had more than 25,000 videos and DVDs until we changed direction, and still have a great many); and that some group of ne'er do wells has been trying to torpedo your feedback over the past couple of years.

I strongly urge you to do three things, if you truly feel Amazon has wronged you. 1. Drop it if your lawyer tells you this is a difficult case. You will be throwing away money just to appease your ego, and that is never a good business decision. That's how you got in trouble being abusive to customers in the first place - your difficulty in accepting responsiblity for problems.

2. Quit posting on these boards. By the time you get to a lawyer you are going to have provided your opposition with all of the information they need to determine your legal strategies. Trying to look like a big shot in front of the rest of us could badly damage your chances in a lawsuit.

3. Quit calling the people at Amazon names, like sleazes. If you think these posts will not end up as an exhibit in court, you are badly, badly mistaken. And deleting them is not going to help you - Prospero will have a record of them. Deletion keeps others from seeing them, but they are not erased from the servers.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

Regards,

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Congratulations, Jamie! You've managed to initiate another 5000+ view thread. I know this must be ego gratifying for you but was it really worth the price?
lol

[Toy Ranch]

Nice to see my old buddies in Seattle finally took my advice. :)

[TurtleTrax]

It was your curse, Bobby! I'm sure of it! :)

[toollady]

Since Jamie seems to have it all figured out, maybe he should open his own ecommerce site...

Oh, wait a minute, never mind! :1crazy:

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Someone else tries to fill Jamie in, to buy him a clue:

According to Amazon guidelines, a negative FB rating of 5% or greater is indicative of seller performance problems. I have no idea what their criteria for actually booting a seller are.

As for the bloodthirst:

I've only been on these boards for a short while, but I've noticed OP's tendency to complain about customers and refuse to admit error. He leaves very defensive responses to the negs on his feedback and openly admits to leaving retaliatory negs on buyer feedback.

Additionally, his feedback is filled with complaints of nondelivery and poor communication. See for yourself at http://www.amazon.com/seller/house_of_vhs

Then he goes to these boards and starts threads that reek of seeking attention or sympathy, such as one implying that Amazon booted him for posting info on how to report bootleggers. In another thread he acted as though, after 6 years of selling, he did not know that customers only had to postmark returns within a week of receipt, and that sellers could not deny a return based on transit time. Other sellers have given constructive suggestions only to be slammed back at by him and called childish names such as "peach head dufus" "nitwits", etc. People then slam him and then he complains that they're malicious.

Others here are more qualified to talk than I am because I am a small, relatively new seller who hasn't seen all of his posts, just been annoyed at a few of the more recent ones. He is acting like a child who misbehaves just to get attention, even if negative. This is my last post responding to him, so I will stop giving him the negative attention he so actively seeks.

All that being said, I wouldn't rejoice in someone getting fired regardless of how much they deserved it. I wish OP the best of luck in future ventures and hope he learns from past errors.

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Someone who knows Jammie:

Jamie (the terminated seller) has a long internet history of confrontation, he hasn't changed in all the years I have seen him online---I don't see him and any 'Learning Experiences" as having a positive outcome

And JAMMIE replys, again, like the arrogant prick he is:

Again, Amazon is saying guilty with no presentation of evidence or which communication they claim I have erred with.

I do not use vulgar language in my correspondance with customers. I do not abuse them.

My refund rate and A-Z rates are probably in the top 5 percentile on this site.

The feedback system, based on other threads and experience here doesn't work.

No, Amazon waited until a Friday afternoon and did their petty dirty deed to silence a voice that has pointed out publicly some of the nefarious things they pull on the public and sellers.

Their email is here for anyone to read. If every charge that some of you make about how horrible a seller I am why axe me for the reason they vaguely state.

Terminating a six year seller is a very strong action. Either such a seller would have to done something gravely wrong or there's some other reason that I'm sure Amazon won't share.

The fact is that there are warnings, none recieved, there are suspensions, never given to me on Amazon, and then there are terminations.

I know some of you understand this because of the emails and calls I'm recieving.

In spite of some of the ugly people in this thread some of the truth behind this is sifting through.

Just remember, if I go, then you're next.

The biggest impetus I had for never pressing certain buttons and backing down was because I'm a seller here.

Now Amazon seems to be taking that away. Unjustly at that.

No right of appeal? No display of evidence to me? No, this smells really ugly.

It's time to shine the light on Amazon real bright.

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In ALL my time at Amazon I have NEVER had an A-Z claim filed against me. NEVER.


SOme other seller tells him tha same kind of thing:

You really need to stop making statements like this one - "My refund rate and A-Z rates are probably in the top 5 percentile on this site". You have no basis for it and it just prompts people to disregard the rest of your comments. While I have only been here a year and a half, in that time I have had zero A-Z claims and less than 1% refunds - I sincerely doubt that I am anywhere close to unique in that.

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LOL:

With respect, I'm getting a little tired of the folks coming to this thread in order to place themselves "above the fray"......this is a GOOD thing for the marketplace. A good thing.

And I am gleeful.

And I am not ashamed.

It's about time.

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Another seller chimes in:

I'm getting a little tired of the folks coming to this thread in order to place themselves "above the fray"......this is a GOOD thing for the marketplace.

I agree with you. I guess none of those "above the fray" folks thought about the fact that Jamie did NOT have to start this thread. He CHOSE to make it a public display. He could have just as easily quietly walked away instead of broadcasting it. He has stepped on a lot of toes on these boards so the responses he is getting should not suprise anyone. It comes back to the same base issue, Jamie had a choice to deal with it privately or not. He chose the latter as usual.

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More:

You're right.

Don't forget this----

Yes, it's misfortunate, especially so close to Christmas. But this is business. And if you're selling on Amazon and that constitutes 50% of your income, then an 88% or so positive feedback rating along with a multitude of other infractions just ain't gonna cut it. Seems to me one would value their business more than that.

HOV was an embarrassment to this site and anyone can look at his feedback to find prove of this---accusing buyers of extortion several times, right on the feedback page. Misquoting Amazon policy in another instance.

This is BUSINESS, and if you want to stay in business you have to have a GOOD business. How many real world businesses, B&M stores, would be able to stay in business with such a poor record?

Amazon can terminate the agreement at any time. And HOV gave them plenty of reasons.

Unfortunate, yes. Undeserved? No.

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More:

This is the last time I post on this thread. Once again it is turning into the Jamie show which is episodes of a bad soap opera.

Last week in one of his usual complaining and whining posts Jamie again blamed Amazon's feedback system and buyers for his feedback. One of the other sellers posted several of the feedbacks. In another posting a seller posted some of Jamie's replies to feedbacks. I was actually angered and hoped that one of these buyers would take this directly to Amazon. Many of us work very hard and go out of our way to satisfy our customers. There is a domino effect of bad treatment and bad performance to buyers. It only takes word of mouth from several of them to lose a large amount of business on this site. It has been pointed out that there are worse sellers than HOVHS and perhaps his high profile which he created by constantly bad mouthing Amazon also plays in this situation. It is however given that he is a bad seller and whether he is just one of the bad sellers shouldn't make a difference in his being expelled.

Once again in this thread he has hidden behind "Amazon's bad feedback system", "being one of the good ole' boys", and "customer is wrong" reasoning. And once again nowhere do I see any accountability or regret for his actions. I personally feel it benefits all sellers that he will no longer be able to sell on this site.

[sadie999]

I've let customers use the A-Z a couple of times. All were times when my postal DC receipt number showed that the package had been delivered but the customer claimed it hadn't. Azon emailed me, I showed them proof of shipment as well as the link to where the PO showed it as delivered, and Azon ate the loss.

I imagine that if you get a lot of non-delivery A-z claims against you, Azon will start charging your account.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. If you don't ship, you're going to get complaints - ya think? When your eBay and Azon feedback both have the same type of crappy feedback for the same thing, it's ludicrous to cry like a babysmellypants :1cryhard: and imagine that anyone will think it's anything but lack of professionalism.

Jammie, Jammie, Jammie:
:You_Smell

[evilanggellene]

You know I've never really followed Jamie's sales but do people actually BUY from him? And if so, why?

[Toy Ranch]

Thank you Shauna.

Sure,there probably are some inconsictency in my posting. I'm still reeling from this.

I still can't believe that Amazon wants me to refund customers out of my own pocket when their money is sitting with Amazon.

That seems like a double penalty.

Sosrg. I still think you rock, but I'm also starting to think that you have a relationship with Amazon that you may not be disclosing.

You write and think wonderfully and if you do have a relationship with Amazon you're probably a very good investment.

You wrote:

"There is no such thing as an illegal chargeback. "

I would politely disagree with you. Amazon had no right dinging me for those two charges which is why they have refunded me.

"Cycling? Again... I think this is a conspiracy theory,"

Sorry Amigo. You're wrong about this. Slides were displayed from Amazon at this years Seller's Conference showing Amazon explaining "cycling" or whichever term they were using.

Perhaps Joanne or someone else could post the pics here?

"Its a pretty simple equation. People wish to be respected. You desire respect, everyone here desires respect. "

Bingo! I agree with you. The only thing is that I haven't been disrespectful to the customer(s) in question.

Amazon phoned me at 10PM EST and suggested if I gave them $5,000.00 all would be well again.

They suggested that I'd told a customer that after sending back an item I refused to refund.

When I reputed that and asked for a quote from my email to said customer Amazon stated that it was only from notes from an Amazon rep.

Again. This is a punitive harmful action taken against myself by a very large corporation.

It's just plain wrong.

I really hope that someone at Amazon realizes this and does something to fix it fast as my losses are starting to mount from this.

And they are losses I should not be having to incur. They are not about my quality or lack therof as a seller.

And John from Amazon. I never said I would take you guys to court. Nobody wins in court except the lawyers.

----------------------------------------------------------- <separating the lies from other outrageous statements...

I would organize a boycott (over 10,000 email addresses in my database from selling here and on Ebay since 1998)

Contact the media.

Organize a protest in front of the Nasdaq with a press release blitz prior.

You people are depriving my family of income for punitive and petty reasons.

There's no reason why I should just roll over and say thank you.

Someone at Amazon should have to answer for this and Amazon should make this right.

Somehow this should be turned into a positive and not be a negative.

I sincerely hope someone at Amazon realizes this sooner rather than later.


Jammie's justification for his terrible feedback...


Sure Rob. But there are a heck of a lot more positive ratings than negative, right?



So Jammie said something to get the thread pulled?

> if I made a $5000.00 penalty payment they would reinstate my account.

OK (!.!.?)

We’ll start the betting pool. Given this post by HOV, we’ll predict that Amazon erases the full thread within 18 hours.

So confident are we, we’ll throw 46 cents onto the table. (To be used for the defense fund.)


Some think it's all a bluff for attention...

perhaps this will be House's way of "comming back" he'll say they begged him to come back, and all will be well...

lets wait and see...

k


Someone thinks it was a spoofed call...


No one at Amazon is going to call him at 7PM (Pacific Time) on a Saturday night. There are $20 machines on the market that can change the number that shows up on your caller id to anything in the world.

Jammie thinks otherwise, says he's NOT crazy. :sm1194:

Lol, I confront you people with facts and you try to make like I'm crazy.

I use a phone service that logs calls in and out.

17-Dec-2005 09:29 PM
18002017575
00:13:00

When you dial back the number you get Amazon.

There was most definately a call from someone at Amazon who claimed his name was John.

Crazy I ain't. :)

And if Amazon removes this thread it certainly would paint them in a much darker hue.

I could understand that many who have posted here would love this thread to go away to hide the petty words.

I'm sure some at Amazon would like this thread to go away too because it's exposing some things about how some at Amazon work that the world is probably not meant to see.

..............

[Powerhouse]

Amazon phoned me at 10PM EST and suggested if I gave them $5,000.00 all would be well again.

Yea, Jamie's lining up for a lawsuit alright - from Amazon. :1dig:

[Jasmine]

...I'm also starting to think that you have a relationship with Amazon that you may not be disclosing.

Hmmmm....


Hasn't he often accused others of working for eBay when they present an opposing opinion to theirs on eBay issues???

[foptiludrop]

My honey just got home after being at a sales conference for a week.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/wappened/airpuppet.jpg

[Powerhouse]

:1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r


:1chirol_c

[SneakyDave]

I was looking for a good sig line...

[Toy Ranch]

Jammie says he's not crazy, however we have definitive evidence to the contrary. One definition of insanity is committing the same behavior with an expectation of different results. At eBay, at Yahoo, at Amazon, on the boards, and everywhere Jammie is ostracized and criticized and denigrated and disliked or even hated because he is still one of the biggest fucktards to ever walk the Earth.... yet he continues to blame it on everyone else and hold to the belief that a vast conspiracy is out to get him. Jammie is out to get himself. The conspiracy could not keep up.

[tekobari]

It's been so long since we had a Jamie episode I'd completely forgotten about him. How refreshing, particularly for the holidays, to see him at his worst again.

He will never get it, will he? He doesn't need enemies. He's his own enemy. That's become a cliche, but it's true.

God, he's nuts.

[mrpotatoheadd]

What do you suppose a "peach head dufus" is?

[rossshow]

There's a seller called: peach_fish_media

Who posted:

Oh how cruel! To be canned the week before Christmas and be informed with a Form Letter! That's really gotta hurt!

[foptiludrop]

Look, it's MrP as Darth Tater - LOL!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/wappened/darthtater.jpg

[10x]

HE CAN DO NO WRONG: its everyone elses fault. ROTFLMAO :1kool1-ai


And the best one yet:

I suggest you set up a video camera to monitor your computer 24 hours a day. It appears that the other half of your schizophrenic self is trying to screw you over, and this might be a way to catch the perp in the act.

:1JerryJer

[mrpotatoheadd]

Look, it's MrP as Darth Tater - LOL! Fear not the Dark Side- the tater is a many-faceted individual, comprised of good as well...

Spud o' Christ:
http://www.glenlachart.com/images/faq/spudeyes.gif

[foptiludrop]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/wappened/smilies/laugh.gif
Chippie, chippie, chippie...

[rossshow]

http://www.amazon.com/seller/therossshow

Imposter ID at the Amazon Boards. Is it Jammie, fooling around?

[sadie999]

Have you called customer service, Ross? To get the account closed?

Peace.

[FLvamp]

Wow.

Squarely in the truth is stranger than fiction category.

Jamie could make a mint writing a book about the past 6 years.

Donate all remaining inventory for a tax write off and become a paid author .... instead of a board hack ... and a Paranoid Peter.

:1kool1-ai

"That ain't right ... Lord I apologize for that there, and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea, Amen." --Larry the Cable Guy

[Skyewriter]

Wow, after reading this thread, it appears Amazon did the right thing and I'm grateful for it. I don't sell on Amazon, but I do buy there. Thankfully, I've never had the displeasure of buying from this individual!

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=39619.202


Whew, it has always ceased to amaze me how much attention the OP has garnered on these boards! I see a bizarre mix of paranoia and narcissistic behaviors working their tragic magic in an online forum that seems to only add flaming embers to such tendencies. I feel that by continuing to engage in banter back and forth with such an individual only enables the person to go deeper into their psyche were paronoia and self obsession have taken hold. There is a point were it becomes obvious that one cannot reason with such a person; at least not in my view in such an impersonal forum as a message board. Perhaps face to face and other direct contact may help you get through but I wonder in this case. I can see over time that the OP's behavior has descended further and further into paranoia as the amount of hostile banter he has engaged in here on the board has increased.

I am sorry Jamie has encountered such difficulties but it was like a wreck waiting for it's train. Some have even questioned whether the termination notice was legititmate. Whether this is indeed a termination of his amazon business (I tend to believe Jamie) or not, I can literally see through reading his posts that he craves even the negative attention he is getting from many in this thread. I regret writing this post and engaging in this drama even as I hit post.






It is good to see you here again, John, adding your long-view to the discussion. You have been on the boards longer than I, and I've been here nearly four years now. Perhaps you recall the Jamie we knew in the early years -- rather a sweet guy, quirky and with some off-the-wall perspectives, but not the fellow who has been posting for the last year or so...

(The rest of my comments are both to you, John, and to All.)

I am spurred by your post to weigh in, as this is in one sense "the end of an era" -- Jamie might like that characterization as it might puff up his ego, but what I mean by that is that, with this news (which I too believe), we are seeing Jamie finally fall on his own sword. He has seen enemies everywhere (almost everyone who has ever sought to tell him the truth in feedback or in posts to him is an "enemy," a "troll," an employee of Amazon, "someone out to get him," a "feedback bomber," etc.). However, Jamie needs no enemies...for he is his own. And in that sense, I agree with Tricia that one could learn from Jamie's posts. IMO he has served as a negative example, and one can learn valuable things from negative examples as well as from positive ones.

As Rebecca said so well, this is not the line of work (nor is a discussion board a good place) for a person who can't handle being disagreed with, and if one chooses to be confrontational oneself, then the inability to handle the fall-out from that would seem to indicate that one has some growing-up to do. Harassing customers is inappropriate and unprofessional. The fact that Jamie simply doesn't believe he has been guilty of that, along with his statement that he is "one of the better sellers here" does without doubt demonstrate a serious disconnect from reality.

John Brown came forward and made this point (that Jamie's "perception of reality is badly skewed") in what I found to be a very honest and respectful post to Jamie. There have been several others who have done the same -- but those are not the posts that Jamie has chosen to respond to. And that has been the biggest problem with Jamie's threads -- he appeals for support and is not open to receiving the support that he NEEDS...he will only accept the support that he WANTS, support for a position that is misqualified, inappropriate, unprofessional, and self-destructive.

To those who feel that plain-speaking is way too harsh when a colleague has lost an important sales channel and faces hardship, I have just one thing to say. It has been my experience in my own life that when I don't listen to the whispers, they become shouts. If I ignore the shouts, I will eventually get banged-up in a way that I cannot ignore -- I will have to stop and listen...and eventually hear. Sometimes hardships befall us in order to help us to find our way out of the grooves we've become stuck in... Sometimes it is only when "the worst that can happen" actually happens, that we learn. I've been there. It's incredibly challenging...and also deeply humbling, because one becomes aware of just how much one has stood in one's own way.

Jamie has been trying to sell his business for quite some time. As I see it, he hasn't truly been able to let it go -- he's been holding onto it, overvaluing his inventory, overvaluing himself as an online businessman. I would like to suggest the possibility that, because Jamie could not let it go on his own, that the very best thing that could happen to him has just happened. And I hope that this door slamming in his face so coldly will lead to another door swinging wide open. And that he'll choose to walk through that door into fresh breezes and bright sunshine. I like to think of Jamie as finally being liberated to explore and develop his creative gifts. Sometimes when we don't do what we need to do for ourselves, life comes in and does it to us. That is only a tragedy if we don't take full advantage of the fresh opportunity that awaits us.

Caramora

[rossshow]

Jammie, as usual, refuses to listen to people telling him to BACK OFF THE BOARDS. His own worst enemy.



Hi Library,

You're right; I really don't lash out or even read some of the stuff posted at me.

Sadly though I have to disagree with you about this board.

It is in fact that best way to communicate with Amazon.

When I send an email it rarely ever gets a reply; never mind one that addresses an issue.

And I'm not here to answer certain questions because as others have pointed out some of this now can't really be discussed in an open forum.

When my payments were missing from Amazon.ca I brought it to this board and sure enough Sharlene was missing hers too as too were probably many other Amazon.ca customers. (sellers)

My emails to .ca went unanswered. Not even a canned response.

However after starting that thread, where Liz responded, my payments magically appeared.

Same with the two wrongful chargebacks.

Almost no response from CS.

It took the thread here to accomplish anything.

Many people read this soapbox. Many insiders at Amazon. Many media people, stock watchers, and even law enforcement and governmental agency people.

Amazon isn't Jeff Bezos anymore than the US is just George Bush.

Like I've posted before, I'm sure there are some people within Amazon that are as shocked and upset that someone in their company would take such a punitive, petty, short sighted, and horrible action to a long time seller. Especially on the Friday before xmas.

I really do believe that.

While I have strongly called Amazon on cycling and feedback I've also stood up for and defended Amazon. I've brought in other sellers and buyers because I've felt strongly about this company since Jay Nelson brought me over from Ebay.

I've followed the rules. I've not taken off site payments. I don't defer my customers to another website. I don't pummel them with email offers.

I don't sell items for a penny just to get their email addreses.

So yes, I've stepped on some toes at Amazon, but what they have done is just total unprofessional and personal.

They are trying to hurt me and my family and to be honest it's worked.

Even if they reinstated me today I've probably lost over a thousand dollars in sales so far.

No, this is what it is.

And if it can happen to me; it can happen to anyone that voices any opposition to what Amazon wants to do whether it's legal; professional, or fair.

The arguement of their company; they get to do what they want isn't quite true.

There are laws. There is also public opinion and customer choice and confidence.

Nobody that works like we do for a living wants to know about this sort of behavior. Not too many would want to support that.

Sellers like me are not a black eye to Amazon. Whoever in the Amazon system that did this is.

Amazon has a lot of strengths. It also has a lot of weaknesses. I do to and I try has hard as I can to improve areas that I'm weak in.

Hopefully someone at Amazon realizes this and turns this into something productive instead of a malicious attack against a very loyal customer.

[Toy Ranch]

Especially on the Friday before xmas.

If someone ordered something from Jammie "the week before Christmas", he would not even ship it until January, if at all...

[Toy Ranch]

Oh, and...

http://members.aol.com/toyranch/jammiesign.jpg

[sadie999]

http://server1.inlandnet.com/~jilittle/poundfloor.gif

[evilanggellene]

If someone ordered something from Jammie "the week before Christmas", he would not even ship it until January, if at all...

I doubt he was concerned about his customers when he made that comment. Most likely just upset he won't be getting any funds himself before the holidays.

Why can't people just be normal?

[rossshow]

We must not forget that PESA is yet another of the people out to ruin Jammie's Business.

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=39619.264


My refund numbers are way under 5% for the year. Only one month over and unless you're a very large seller a few refunds can have that effect.

My A-Z claims are low too. In an older thread I posted my summary info for since Amazon started posting the info.

As for resting on my laurels, my fb actually had increased in the last year, sales were up, my inventory was up over 20%, and I had three new selling modules in place. My dollars per sale avg are very very good; especially for VHS.

Luckily my numbers on Ebay/Half are rising too otherwise I'm be dead in the water.

I have to tell you I'm really surprised by some of the sellers I've been hearing from. Apparently the larger the seller you are the more concerned you are about having your plug pulled in this manner.

As another seller suggested to me, my feedback is better than Macy's on Amazon and the suggested crime I've committed from Alliance is not really grounds for termination.

I use fillz and Endicia as tools as well.

No laurel resting here.

I was trying to work with Amazon. I thought I'd connected with someone who could help but sadly she never called back after asking if she could within the hour.

I've talked with some very helpful people about this.

I think sometimes I even forget how large Amazon is.

I'm going to try and connect with someone within the company who can address and resolve this before taking other measures.

If things eventually get messy it won't be because I haven't tried to work this out amicably or in good faith.

In the meanwhile my losses keep mounting up.

Either way this has been devastating and the longer it takes to fix the worse it gets.

One day at a time.

And again, thanks to those of you who do understand what's happened here.

I'm sure the truth will come out just like it did with the wrongful chargebacks and Amazon.ca non-payment.

thank you! This echoes most of the email and calls I've recieved about this.

I even had two offers of financial assistance.

There are issues that effect all sellers in this case.

Btw, I agree, we are not employees of Amazon, more like sharecroppers. :)

Boilerplate aside there are many issues.

My concern though is that I'm a little tired of having Amazon monkey with my income whether it's wrongful chargebacks, missing payments, and of course this devastating shot.

Even if Amazon reinstated me today I've lost over a thousand dollars in lost sales.

Not too mention the stress of this event.

I think Amazon should be as accountable for its employees actions as they are holding me.

I recieved another email from Alliance. They are refusing to quote or provide evidence of my actions that they still feel are grounds for termination.

Again, I know large companies move slowly, but I do hope someone in upper management realizes what someone down the chain is doing.

When Amazon sends execs to court Pesa members do they really expect punitive actions like this to impress large sellers?

When Macy's and larger sellers have much worse feedback than I do, do they think that will inspire larger sellers to come to Amazon?

There are many good things about Amazon, but there are many bad things.

Some issues are easier tackled than others.

How Amazon deals with 3P sellers is an issue that can be improved without a lot of resources being spent.

Whoever did this to my account should not be working for Amazon.

Amazon has stated that we 3P sellers are their customers.

It's ironic that Alliance is claiming that my termination is based on customer support when you look at how Amazon is supporting me, a customer of over six years who has pumped thousands and thousands of dollars into them.

Amazon this is wrong. Please fix this. And fix it soon.



"It will be interesting to see how your situation pans out over the next several weeks.

Most of the respondents so far have attacked the messenger and ignored the use of one-sided decision making by Amazon. In the employee-employer world it is called employment at will. There are still various laws to help keep it in check though. Until someone cites some court or mediation cases, we are all just standing on soapboxes, espousing our own personal points of view.

For whatever reason you have had your ability to use Amazon revoked. On a Friday right before Christmas. A major shock to the system and the pocket book.

Keep us informed on the progress of your situation.

Try to glean the helpful from the hurtful.

And whatever else you do, Press On Regardless!"

[rossshow]

We al know that PESA members sell on Amazon, too:



When Amazon sends execs to court Pesa members do they really expect punitive actions like this to impress large sellers?



Jamie, don’t bring PeSA into your argument.

We operate under a different code and quite frankly you are not in our/their league. As a proud member of both PeSA and Amazon.com, I (and I speak only for myself) am impressed when I see this site deal with poor performers like yourself.

I have no ill will towards you nor do I wish to see you incur financial hardship from this event.

Many other posters have expressed much more eloquently than I could about how you have brought this situation upon yourself. Since you still own your inventory it may not be too late to learn from some of your mistakes and start over – of course that is up to Amazon’s management.

As a business person who has been given the opportunity and privilege of selling on this site, I am encouraged when things like this happen as it eliminates people who are negatively affecting the purchasers that I advertise to. I am far from perfect, I make mistakes on a daily basis, but I try to learn from them and improve the way I do business.

Here is hoping you do the same.


Jammie says Shame on you, Tom! And of course, imaginary support chimes in, no posts, but the emails are pouring in!



Sorry Tom, your abusive posts of the past towards me betray your statement.

And believe me I speak with many members of Pesa. You are not speaking for the group, as you state or the way they think and behave.

I've got more support from Pesa members so far than anywhere else.

Believe me, there are bigger issues here than my poor alleged performance.

My performance is not poor. If my performance was poor whoever did this at Amazon wouldn't have to go to the lengths they appear to have to terminate my account.

Just like the two wrongful chargebacks that were reversed I'm hoping that the truth will come out about this.

I may not be reinstated, but the truth will come out one way or the other if Amazon doesn't resolve this.

I had surgery Nov.19 2004. I went in on a Friday, came home on a Monday with five incisions in my stomach, and did my shipping Tuesday morning.

No, I don't think my performance is an issue.

Hopefully the right people at Amazon will investigate this and realize it too and make this right.

[rossshow]

Fucking moron.



I have decided to hold back on publishing the emails, not because of any fear of guilt, as I'm not guilty of what Amazon is vaguely charging me and refusing to provide evidence of, but because I am trying to be very careful to not do anything in reaction to this at this point that could be used to terminate my account legitmately.

Just like the wrongful chargebacks and missing .ca payments I'm hoping that this gets resolved.

I'm giving Amazon execs (I've been phoning every day) until next week as I know that large companies can move awfully slow; before I consider other actions to protect my business and income.

In the meanwhile the bootlegger I outed has had their ebay movie listings go from 100,000 listings to 35,000.

If this seller also sold on Amazon that's an awful lot of missing product and missing sales.

There's too much smoke and not enough evidence of my wrongdoing for this to stick.

That being said it doesn't mean Amazon will choose to do what's right and put me back, but at least things will be more real and I can then decide what action to be taken.

Again, I have done nothing to warrant an account termination on Amazon.

The fact that they are refusing to provide me quotes of my offense I think is evidence of that.

Also, in the past when I'd recieve a summary warning or contact from Alliance and requested proof of what I'd done Alliance always refused to provide such proof.

Jamie Selzer from Amazon once even contacted me telling me that Alliance had made an error regarding posts on this board.

Human errors and Human nature can happen; whether you are a 3P seller or work in Alliance.

Terminating a six year seller who has supported and helped build your company (even in a humble manner) the Friday before Xmas is punitive; especially without evidence or appeal.

Thank you all again for the support on this board, via email, and the calls I've recieved and happy holidays!

Amazon has to date refused to provide proof of the actual incident.

Alliance has responded claiming that they had sent four warnings prior.

These emails, standard ones, were in fact specific that they were not warnings, but educational tools.

When I had contacted Alliance about what I had done to warrant such an email I was emailed back that they couldn't state that due to privacy policy.

At one point a Jamie Selzer from Amazon emailed and phoned me to notify me that one charge was errorneous based on activity on this board.

Activity that led up to this wrongful termination included a rash of negative ratings without emails from the buyers which I started a thread about here.

I also was wrongfully charged twice for items that I'd defended successfully.

Both were reversed, but only after coming to this board.

One was not email responded, but just appeared in my Amazon account mysteriously.

Likewise when Amazon.ca didn't pay 3P sellers for the first half of this month the funds magically appeared after bringing the concern to this board.

Futhermore the day I was terminated I had brought a link to a gov't website that actually does deal with bootleg and copyright infringements; something that take $ out of the pockets of legitimate movie sellers like myself and cost Amazon and Ebay money.

The seller I complained about actually has 65,000 less listings on Ebay (not sure how many here).

Also, one of the problemic buyers who fb bombed without emailing first exchanged several emails with me the day of my termination.

That person, upon doing a google search turned out to be a security director with a company that does security for Amazon and/or affiliated companies.

Amazon did not terminate my account because of negative feedback. I don't think could legally terminate anyone for feedback based on the abuse and failure of its feedback system. (IE see my lovely red 1/5 rating for an irate customer at Amazon's credit card that Amazon has refused to remove)

Amazon certainly didn't terminate my account based on refund or A-Z claims as my numbers are well within their posted boundaries.

In the meanwhile I had an Amazon rep phone me and state that if I paid a $5,0000.00 penalty fee I could have my account reinstated.

I've been calling Amazon's corporate office hoping to find someone up the ladder who probably would be shocked that a long time "customer" and cash provider to Amazon is being treated in this punitive manner.

Sadly, they are hiding. They are refusing to reply to emails, phone messages. I even had one woman state she'd phone me back within an hour still not call after two days.

I'm really trying to give Amazon the benefit of the doubt as a company. Companies with many employees can have someone over step their roles or make mistakes.

Good companies make right on those actions.

Hopefully Amazon will too.

[Powerhouse]

Jamie: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Waa-waa. Blah, blah, blah. Conspiracy. Blah, Blah. Waa-waa. I've been good. Blah, blah, blah. They will pay. Waa-waa-waa. Not my fault. Blah, Waa, Blah. Supportive emails. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Waa-waa. Cost me money. Blah, Waa, blah, blah. I have reported. Waa-waa, Blah, Blah. Stand up for me. Waa-waa, Boo-Hoo, Blah, blah. Mistakes were made. Blah-waa, blah-waa, Waa-Blah, Waa-Blah."

GROW THE FUCK UP!

[10x]

CORRECTION

ITS

" Mom someone hurt me, the dont like me! Cry Cry Cry tears of truth.... Or fake truth as the case may be. LOL

[gmsys]

It's the curse of Ross's Cat art I tell you.
What else could it be.
ROFLMAO :1clap5:

[Doofy]

If I lost 50% of my income, I would be out scrounging for work, not making endless posts on a message board.

The other thing that strikes me odd, isn't 10,000 sales in 6 years fairly pathetic for a fulltime seller?

I doubt anyone at Amazon will lose much sleep, with the money he is no longer pulling in for them.

I also agree with Toy, that anyone who bought from him looking for the item for Christmas would be in for a rude awakening.

[rossshow]

Welcome, Doofy



:sm1186: :JapA030li :2welcome- :JapA030li :sm1187:

[microbes]

10,000 sales in 6 years fairly pathetic for a fulltime seller?

That would all depend on what you are selling. If you were in real estate, that might be pretty darn good. If you sell new cars, it would be pretty darn good. If they were $100 sales that would be million gross in 6 years, depending on mark up that still might not be to shabby.

If they were 99 cent sales, then ....

[tekobari]

He's incredible. He never gets any better. And he keeps saying the SAME thing over and over, hoping that by repeating it, someone will believe it.

I have never understood the man. He's unlike anyone else I've ever observed in my life.

Yup, incredible.

[KatieP]

... he keeps saying the SAME thing over and over, hoping that by repeating it, someone will believe it.

I have never understood the man. He's unlike anyone else I've ever observed in my life.


Oh, I don't know. I can think of at least one resident of Washington, DC to whom these same observations might apply.

[sadie999]

:D @ Katie.

Actually, repeating something until everyone believes it is an effective tool for spreading truths and lies.

Eg. There are still a lot of people that believe Mama Cass Elliot died from choking on a ham sandwich. A careless remark, dropped by a doctor, and exploited by the media.

The flaw in the repetition thing for lies is that once a group of people finally get that it's a lie, or that the teller is a liar, it becomes ineffective.

Peace.

[tekobari]

I guess, so, Sadie. Urban legends and all that. (Mama Cass; the men who dropped the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki went crazy; the $250 chocolate chip cookie recipe, etc.) I just didn't think it worked, but you're right. I guess it can.

Lord have mercy. Jamie could get people to believe him?

Well, then. I guess he DOES smell like butt!

[rossshow]

Jammie comes home to The Ross Show

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=90190&postcount=13

[Doofy]

I dunno.

Something is very wrong here, I find myself agreeing with Jamie, it seems against the flow of popular opinion.

I think I had better check my meds.

[justjg]

Why thank you Doofy.

I think that most 3P sellers on Amazon are about to go the way of Alibris and Abe in incremental stages.

Some will be trimmed and some will be staggered in that their exposure to traffic will be different.

Either way it's been devastating to my business.

And while that was for sale I certainly after being there for six years deserve to pick the time of my exit from the big river.

They actually had their security company trump something up to get rid of me.

I guess one should never call the CEO Sealboy...

[Doofy]

Sorry Jamie

I've got no oar in your fight with Amazon.

But I will say your feedback would have scared the crap out of me as a buyer.

The thing we agreed on was the link that ross gave.

I'm pretty sure thats the first time we've ever agreed on anything, anywhere.

If PG sends me a luv letter, I'm moving into a monestary as this world will have become just to scary a place.

[Toy Ranch]

They threw you off there because you are a shitty seller and they moved to protect their customers from you. Period. End of story. :2slampan:

[rossshow]

They threw you off there because you are a shitty seller and they moved to protect their customers from you. Period. End of story.



Sounds true to me.

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40291.1&ctx=0



Dear Current and Amazon Employees,

I, like many 3P sellers on Amazon find some of Amazon's practices very much wrong.

As difficult as it can be I'm asking some of you with concsciences that know of some of these practices to contact me with any assistance or information you can provide.

All information will be confidential unless you state otherwise.

It's time to shine the light on some of what's happened and happening on Amazon.

You can email me at canvid@hotmail.com (canvid@hotmail.com) or by phone at 613.363.6913

Thank you,

Jamie

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40366.1&ctx=0


I dont even know the guy and Im already sick of him! Post here for your online petition to have Jamie/HOV off of here.

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40291.51

You lie everytime you post. You treat your customers like crap. And you're no longer selling on Amazon.com, so the one with issues is you, pal.

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40291.61


I had no idea you could stoop so low. DF doesn't deserve for you to stab her in the back in such a fashion. It was ME that you remember speaking with that night. If we were discussing smaller meetings it was for the smaller worshops we wanted to start for those interested in specific topics. Also, keep in mind this was the SECOND year and we had just signed a contract for space (that made DF legally anD personally responsible) to accommodate not more than 50 people. Back in those days there was a lot of interest in the conference with few people actually showing up. Shame on you. DF has always been extremely nice to you and here you go trying to slander her in your efforts to slander Jay. Do you want to start up with ME now? I think you'd better quit while you're.. ummm.... not completely flushed down the drain. I obviously have a much better memory of what was discussed that night. You're such a smug schmuck. It wasn't JAY... it was ME and you're trying to twist an honorable event into being something sinister. SHAME ON YOU! Not a single person here who knows or remembers Donna Faye willl EVER believe this crap you've asserted. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

[rossshow]

Boy. Jammie lost another neutral, he turned her into an enemy:



For the record:

That conversation took place via the yahoo chat board. You and DF were using microphones, thus the "phone" conversation you remember. I could hear you , but my microphone didn't work so I had to type my responses. That is most likely why you can't remember if it was a male or female you spoke with, because you NEVER HEARD MY VOICE. It was, by the way, an OPEN discussion tht had been scheduled on the boards for anyone to attend, which is WHY YOU WERE THERE! If we were discussing clandestine topics would we really do it in public?? Wouldn't DF, Jay andI have had those conversations in private seeing as we spoke with each other ALL THE TIME on regular phone lines and exchanged emails daily about the conference? (By the way.. I can only speak for myself. I spoke with each of them all the time on the phone, we never all three were on the phone at the same time. As far as I know, Jay and DF may have never spoken to each other but corresponed by email alone.) IT WAS ONLY THE THREE OF US PUTTING IT TOGETHER and DF ended up having to do almost all of it by herself because neither Jay nor I were able to make it at the last minute.

You're an ungrateful snob. You posted a thread a year or more ago asking fo "Dino's Only" to respond or email you with suggestions for improving your business and thus improve your FB. I wrote you an email - even though I'm not a Dino, but a mere old-timer - suggesting you try Fillz. While I may not be the only one to suggest it to you, you never responded or thanked me for the information even though you extoll the virtue of Fillz all the time and obviously took the advice. You are a JERK.

[hellcat]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40291.1&ctx=0

It looks like Amazon deleted this latest thread, much as they did the earlier one begun by Jammie. Too bad. :1chirol_r

Beth

[rossshow]

It looks like Amazon deleted this latest thread

Wow. They sure did. Wonder if Jammie's kicked off the boards, now?

[hellcat]

Wow. They sure did. Wonder if Jammie's kicked off the boards, now?

I don't know, but if I had an opportunity to give legal advice to Amazon (and believed for one hot second that Jammie would pursue his grievances in a legal venue...LOL!), I'd have advised them to continue his access to the boards and let him babble to his heart's content. Every post he makes is like handing Amazon a box of ammo, loading their gun for them, and painting a fluorescent target on his ample ass.

Of course, just as those many times past when Jammie has gotten himself into a slobbering snit and threatened legal action, this latest threat was clearly perceived to be what it was...no real threat at all--just a fool with his naked ass hanging out, shaking his impotent little fists, while pissing all over his own shoes and then blaming others because his feet are wet and stinky.

Beth

[hellcat]

Thread about Jamie being (at least semi-) banned from the Amazon boards:

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40389.1&ctx=0

According to one poster:

HOV emailed me letting me know his posts are being automatically deleted by Amazon.

Now that would be absolutely BRILLIANT...let Jammie continue to compose and submit his increasingly rabid screeds, and collect them for the file, but intercept them before they actually post. That's truly wonderful.

:1clap5:

Beth

[rossshow]

It appears threads HOV started are gone and so is he.

Bye, Jammie! That's banned for life from board number 12! What an important board for him to lose. How far he's fallen.

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40383.1&ctx=0

Another thread:


Anyone notice that several threads are gone? I think at least three of them are gone, including a couple of the HOV threads.

[rossshow]

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40389.11



I bet they finally responded to him, but rather than offering him "proof" or "evidence" to sustantiate their action, or a chance to talk about the $2.50 situation with an impartial arbitrator, it was a nice fresh-off-the-press "cease and desist" order!

I believe he won't be happy about the circumstances if his case ever gets to court.

What a...

oh never mind.

[Toy Ranch]

Man, I feel sorry for the cats tonight... :(

[hellcat]

Man, I feel sorry for the cats tonight... :(

Ain't that the truth? He's pissed off; they're pissed on.

Beth

[kim]

- hell he's not even posting here and he's annoying me...

[hellcat]

Well, it appears that, although his old username has been banned, Jamie has found his way with a sockpuppet, Snagglenaggle.

http://forums.prospero.com/am-sellconnect/messages?msg=40389.21

Note the signs:

One sentence/one paragraph.
Trashing Amazon in the most insulting terms ("brownshirts").
Sweeping statements for which there is no support whatsoever ("Everyone with backbone has eother given up or been banned.").
The pretense of being in the majority ("The sniveling minority runs this place while the real voices of change are banned or placated by fear.").
The obligatory tut-tutting ("What a freaking shame and disgrace.").

My goodness, if I was a member there, I do believe that I'd report it.

What a transparent ass.

Beth

[hellcat]

Not so "banned," it would appear. Posted this morning (as "house of vhs") on the Amazon board:

http://forums.prospero.com/am-sellconnect/messages?msg=40210.11

Beth

[Doofy]

Of course, just as those many times past when Jammie has gotten himself into a slobbering snit and threatened legal action, this latest threat was clearly perceived to be what it was...no real threat at all--just a fool with his naked ass hanging out, shaking his impotent little fists, while pissing all over his own shoes and then blaming others because his feet are wet and stinky.

Beth you print such pretty pictures. :D

[Whammo]

Curled my nose hairs. :1crazy:

[hellcat]

Jamie's latest screed:

http://forums.prospero.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-sellconnect&msg=40509.1&ctx=0

Beth

[sadie999]

Yoo hoo, Jaaaamieeee:

:You_Smell

[Doofy]

The Amazon board can't have much moderation.

You would have thought as soon as he made it obvious he was posting under another I.d.

He would have been banned again.

He's signing his name, there can't be much doubt.

[sadie999]

The Amazon board is a snake pit.

What Would You Do? Broken pencil! threads are more productive. :1crazy:

[rossshow]

LOL!

I thought Jammie was one of the BANNED ones at Brad's:

http://bardscoliseum.com/showthread.php?t=2168

Threads: 2,096, Posts: 19,907, Members: 197
Welcome to our newest member, justjg

[rossshow]

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1188245#1188245

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=house_of_vhs

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1188522#1188522

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=113577&start=60&tstart=0



We have sold over 10,000 movies online since 1998! We specialize in rare and hard to find VHS movies. If you don't see it listed please contact us and we probably can find it for you.


We used to sell on Amazon, but sadly that company has gone very evil and bad. On December 16th, 2005 they terminated our listings because they were upset at being caught making wrongful chargebacks. They have yet to substantiate their claim to terminate the account other than to state that they have the right to terminate any account at any time. As well they claimed that we refused to refund a customer even though they couldn't or wouldn't provide proof of such a claim. Ebay is the best place to find movies. Just search and you'll find it here. I would recommend that if you sell movies or media stay far away from Amazon as they have many practices now which are most likely illegal and definately wrong; especially their feedback system which is the easiest thing to use as a weapon.

[kim]

is that is some kind of a royal - "we"...?

- har har maybe it's a royal pain...

[agentorange]

but sadly that company has gone very evil and bad
So why did he hire a third grader to write this rather than compose it himself?

[rossshow]

AMAZON kicks off another bad seller. This guy's out, because he was just like Jammie:

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=113148&start=15&tstart=0


theabcbookstore
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller/at-a-glance.html/103-4563691-2372650?seller=A18ITLSO8RZE99&marketplaceSeller=1
Marketplace Items

This customer has no open Marketplace listings.

[toollady]

And, when it gets hot in the kitchen, Jammie falls back on the old standby:

Have a loverly day and btw, do you or anyone in your family have a relationship with Amazon and its affiliated company's other than as a buyer or 3P seller? And have you or any of your family signed a non-disclosure-agreement with Amazon or any of its affilated company's?



He must have it copy and pasted in notepad, or maybe a macro key.

:2slampan:

[rossshow]

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1211326#1211326




reebbob, do you or any of your family have a relationship with Amazon or any of its affiliated companies other than as a buyer or seller?

Also, have you or any of your family signed a Non Disclosure Agreement with Amazon or any of its affiliated company's or services?

Thank you and have a lovely day. :)

[rossshow]

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1213074#1213074

More insane lies from Jammie:



I'll speak for myself thank you. I am in fact in business still on Amazon.

My Amazon.ca account was not terminated (and yes they know it exists as it was discussed with an Amazon rep who stated they were watching it but had chosen to not close it.

I wasn't shut down on Amazon.com because of any legit infraction. It was payback for what I've said on this board and for the wrongful chargeback issue which embarrassed Amazon publicly. The final straw for them I guess is when an account rep lost a seller when I outed them to the gov't.

I also supply a few other Amazon.com sellers and am now a powerseller on Ebay. (no, not my old Ebay account)

I trade mostly in rare vhs videos. So this issue is very much in fact germane to me.

What my competitor has shared is very much true. I also purchase from bootleggers and out them and in fact have provided unopened material from the bootlegger to the gov't agency that investigates this. This is the best form of evidence if you feel that you are buying from a bootlegger. Do not open the envelope. Keep it sealed and preferably ship to the gov't from the PO with the Postmaster as witness that you didn't open it.

They have a website and direct number to contact them. I have posted it here.

Bootlegging is an issue that both Amazon and Ebay make money from. It hurts our area of the industry greatly and I and others have lost thousands if not millions of dollars because of it.

When I list a movie for $90.00 that is used and had one vhs printing and some joker is selling new booties for $10.00 that's just wrong. Especially when I'm paying more than that for the originals

[10x]

"insane" yep.

[Toy Ranch]

Jammie could have been a MILLIONAIRE! :1eek2:

[evilanggellene]

Wow!

I am going to sleep SO MUCH BETTER now that I know Jamie is policing the deep dark underground of Bootleg VHS tapes while single-handedly making sure ebay and Amazon stay on the up and up.

[Powerhouse]

VHS?!? Do people still use that? :2gamecock

[sadie999]

Yes.

But that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to try to make a living selling the stuff. Or that I think that anything ButtSmellBoy says has any relevance or grounding in reality.

I've got tons of tapes that don't have any resale value that I picked up for 50cents or a dollar, but I like the movies.

Someday, Richard Simmons on video will be considered a classic.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/ladytrue_99/richardsimmons.jpg

Peace. :D

[rossshow]

More insane lies.


Is there a DHS department that deals with Ebay and Amazon? No?


http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1213266#1213266



Starz I didn't link to the FBI. I linked to the DHS office that deals directly with Ebay and Amazon. They are happy to have individual complaints and even offer a phone number that a human anwers.

And these agents love bagging big bootleggers as that's the only way they get credit, ie making collars.

Of course Amazon and Ebay don't really want people filing complaints with this office.

And it really is funny that the day I printed the page from the gov't site and get a bad seller on ebay (who also sells on Amazon) to lose over 65,000 movie listings my account gets shut down.

No, I think most know what's up and what's down and you've been around long enough to know that there seems to be an unhealthy supporting of certain sellers.

[Toy Ranch]

:1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r


Who is DHS?

Starz it's the US department of home services


:1chirol_r :1chirol_r

:1chirol_c :1clap5: :1chirol_c

[Powerhouse]

Originally Posted by Jammie
Starz it's the US department of home services


:1eek2: :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r

OMG! What a DWEEB!!!! :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r

Department of HOME SERVICES??!!??


:1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r

Hey, Moron! I need my house cleaned on Friday - what's the phone number of "Home Services"? Do they do lawncare too? :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r


Jesus Christ! I'm laughing so hard I am tearing!


:1chirol_r :1chirol_r :1chirol_r

What a compete FUCKTARD!!!!

:1chirol_r

[Toy Ranch]

No wonder Jammie likes it over there. He has a 'defender' who is as big an idiot as he is...

[packyrat]

Originally Posted by Jammie
Starz it's the US department of home services


More like The Deaprtment for the Hopelessly Stupid

Now THAT would be a federal agency that I could belive ole Jammie is in contact with on a regular basis! :1bonk1: :sm1194: :2gamecock

The only thing that REALLY scares me is that he is within spitting distance of me since I moved. :rolleyes:

Just so long as the border patrol guys do their jobs, i should be OK though. :1raygun1:

[justjg]

Aw Kenny I'm in NYS twice per week, sometimes three times. We should get together and have a java ;)

[rossshow]

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=1220568#1220568

Jammie, still posting on the boards of the site he's booted from. Still no clue!



Perry always trust your first instinct. I also get customers like this and I can feel it in my bones that they aren't who they really are.


I have always followed the tos. It's the only way to go. A million years ago I made the mistake of trying to "help" a customer by bending over backwards to ensure that I met their needs.

I ended up being on the hook for $1300.00 because I didn't ship to the exact payment address provided by Amazon.

Valuable lesson learned.

Especially because of fraud and the nature of Alliance/Amazon you have to follow the rules to the T. It's a shame that Amazon and Alliance weren't forced to do the same.

[rossshow]

Jammie: NOW BOOTED OFF AMAZON CHAT BOARDS:

http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/profile.jspa?userID=17821

Guess it happened early June.

[Jasmine]

Am I reading that right? He registered 2/8/06 and made 4,217 in 4 months???

[Toy Ranch]

Am I reading that right? He registered 2/8/06 and made 4,217 in 4 months???

He's been on there for a long time. That's probably just the last time he got suspended.

95.2% feedback on eBay... what a fucktard.