The cyber predator [Archive] - The Ross Show Forums

agentorange

01-24-2006, 03:03 AM

Please post links/quotes from the sites you've read. Here's something I found on cartbay, one of the few things worth mentioning:

What are the common characteristics of cyber predators?

• The most alarming thing about Internet predators is they don’t seem to fit any definitive profile. There are some basic similarities among predators but beyond that, they are not easily discernible.

• Computer Savvy—They must be able to maneuver and manipulate the Internet. [or have connections with those who do.]

• Often, they are college graduates

• Successful careers—They must be able to afford the necessary equipment, and to be able to network .

• Male—When women are involved, it is often as an accomplice.

Predators typically go through communication development with their victims as they aim to develop a trusting relationship.

Through a variety of means and methods, predators work to develop a bond with their victims and establish a trusting relationship in a seemingly innocent progression.

Chat Rooms

• Many predators lurk in chat rooms. They scan screen names and profiles, weeding out potential victims and identifying specific characteristics for each. They model their own screen names and profiles to lure people into conversation.

Private Chat Rooms

• An invitation for a private chat is not uncommon and predators make use of this. They are isolating their prey from the herd and initiating a relationship. (Later they invite them to the car wash!).

Instant Messaging

• IM offers a predator even more privacy. Predators will attempt to move the relationship to this level. But people need to realize, IM may be the starting point. Predators research profiles and can IM those they find appealing and have made themselves accessible.

E-mail

• The next stepping-stone involves e-mail. E-mail ensures longer, more sustained communication and allows a connection when not simultaneously logged in or signed on.

Shared Interests

• A predator will mold himself or herself into someone appealing and interesting to chat with. Once contact is initiated, the luring and seduction process, known as “grooming,” begins.

• Common ground and shared interests are imperative. The predator will echo the person’s likes and dislikes, feigning similar preferences and favorites. And he may pretend to own things the other person wants.

• At some point, the recruited person begins to believe in the relationship. The predator will push to exchange e-mail addresses or IM screen names, allowing more private, intimate communication.

Trust

• The predator works hard to build trust. He appears interested in literally everything discussed, always understanding and agreeing. He is not only a friend, he is the best friend possible.

Secrecy

• Isolation and secrecy play an important role. The predator will discourage the inclusion of others, as they “simply won’t understand.”

uglimouse

01-24-2006, 04:59 PM

Interesting "profiling" in that piece, Base.

Also interesting: IM, the cyber "Gateway Drug" :sm1115: ?

agentorange

01-24-2006, 09:46 PM

http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm

<H1>About Stalking

Stalking is generally defined as any unwanted contact between a stalker and their victim, which communicates a threat or places the victim in fear (National Center for Victims of Crime Stalking Resource Center (http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/Main.aspx)). Commonalities exist between stalking and both sexual assault and domestic violence and a great deal of overlap occurs with these crimes. The laws in Massachusetts and throughout the country are catching up with what we have come to know and understand about this criminal behavior.

Best estimates show that 1 out of every 12 women and 1 out of every 45 men in the U.S. are stalked in their lifetime (NVAW (http://www.nvaw.org/)). Stalking can be classified into three broad categories:

Intimate or former intimate partner stalking

The stalker and victim may be married or divorced, may live together or have lived together in the past, may be serious or casual sexual partners, or former sexual partners. There may be a history of sexual or domestic violence in the relationship as well.

Acquaintance stalking

The stalker and victim might know each other casually, as in a co-worker or neighbor relationship.

Stranger stalking

The stalker and victim do not know each other.Stalking victims often live in constant fear that at any moment their safety and lives may be threatened. Never knowing when the threat may become a violent reality, stalking victims experience higher levels of anxiety, severe depression, social dysfunction and insomnia causing significant disruption and alteration of daily life. Helping stalking victims find safety requires a coordinated community response.

Stalking is a Crime (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Crime)
Stalking as Sexual and Domestic Violence (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Violence)
What Does Stalking Behavior Look Like? (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Behavior)
Stalking in the Electronic? Technology Age… also known as Cyber-Stalking (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Technology)
Safety Planning for Stalking Victims (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Planning)
Documenting the Stalking (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Documenting)
Sources (http://www.janedoe.org/know/stalking.htm#Sources)

Stalking is a Crime

Legal and clinical definitions of stalking vary from state to state. Under Massachusetts law, stalking is defined in two parts. First, stalking is a willful and malicious pattern of conduct that seriously alarms and would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress. (MA General Laws, Chapter 265: Section 43) Second, like many other states, Massachusetts’ stalking law also requires that a stalker directly threaten a victim.

In the National Violence Against Women (NVAW) Survey, fewer than half of all stalking victims reported that their stalkers directly threatened them. Therefore the second requirement of the law makes proving a stalking case more difficult and excludes a large number of stalking victims from filing charges. To address this gap, Massachusetts passed a criminal harassment law in 2000 intended to protect stalking victims in cases where there is no clear threat made by the stalker. The law allows for prosecution of “criminal harassment” when a stalker engages in a pattern of harassing conduct but does not directly threaten the victim. (MA General Law, Chapter 265, Section 43A) Now, even victims who are not specifically threatened may see their cases prosecuted in Massachusetts.

Jane Doe Inc. supports the creation of a new law, An Act to Prevent Harassment and Witness Intimidation (formerly Act to Establish a Sexual Assault & Stalking Protective Order (http://www.janedoe.org/involved/S1037%20Harassment%20FS.pdf)). The purpose of this legislation is to fill an unacceptable and dangerous gap in protection for these victims by providing a civil remedy requiring the offender to stay away from and to not contact the victim. By closely mirroring the protections offered by MGL c.209A, the legislation aims to provide an effective civil remedy for those victims who do not meet the relationship requirements of MGL c.209A.

Stalking as Sexual and Domestic Violence

Research shows an enormous overlap between stalking and sexual and domestic violence. The National Violence Against Women Survey (NVAW) survey found that:

• 76% of female stalking murder victims had been stalked by their intimate partner.

Of the women surveyed who were stalked by an intimate partner:

• 67% had also been physically abused by that same partner.

Although sexual assault and domestic violence victims might not use the word stalking to describe their experiences, a perpetrator’s behavior often involves stalking. The same patterns of power and control appear in both contexts.

What Does Stalking Behavior Look Like?

Stalking behavior includes a full range of activities. With 78% of stalkers using more than one manner of approach, activities can range from very subtle behavior to extreme and outrageous acts that might sound unbelievable to those less familiar with stalking. A stalker might engage in only one form of stalking behavior while another might engage in a wide variety of different and unpredictable stalking activities.

Celebrity stalking, while very serious, accounts for a small percentage of all stalking cases. Most stalking cases are in the context of domestic violence – the victim is living in fear of someone they once loved and trusted in an intimate partner relationship.

A stalker’s behavior might include:

• Following
• Waiting outside of a home or workplace
• Making harassing or persistent phone calls
• Sending letters or emails
• Sending unwanted gifts or flowers
• Contacting, threatening, or harassing friends and family
• Hurting or killing pets
• Vandalizing property
• Manipulative behavior, for example, threatening suicide in order to force contact
• Spreading lies about a victim, for example, filing false reports, posting or distributing personal or false information
• Collecting information about the victim’s personal life and habits
• Subscribing to services in the victim’s name
• Interfering with utilities or services, for example, having phone service disconnected
• Impersonating the victim or family member
• Accessing personal information through computer files or email accounts

Stalking with Technology

Access to the Internet and familiarity with new electronic technologies is increasingly common for most households, campuses and workplaces. This technology provides stalkers another means for finding, contacting and harassing their victims. While using technology to stalk does not involve physical contact, it is no less threatening than physical stalking. Campus and workplace policies as well as community responses need to take seriously the protections from and responses to these stalking tactics.

Stalking via technology can take many forms, such as:

• accessing or interfering with computer files and/or emails
• sending threatening correspondence via email
• tracking activities and movement through GPS (global positioning satellite) technology
• taking photo/video images without consent and/or transmitting those images through the internet or other channels

For more information on Internet and Computer Safety and steps you can take for your safety, click here. (http://www.janedoe.org/footer.htm)

To learn more about this issue or for additional safety planning information, go to the The National Network to End Domestic Violence (NNEDV) web site at www.nnedvfund.org or http://www.nnedvfund.org/default.asp?Page=9 (http://www.janedoe.org/know/www.nnedvfund.org%20or%20http://www.nnedvfund.org/default.asp?Page=9). The NNEDV Fund runs “Safety Net: the National Safe and Strategic Technology Project” to educate victims of stalking and domestic/sexual violence, their advocates, and the general public on ways to use technology strategically to help escape violence and find safety.

More information is also available at the National Center for Victims of crime Stalking Resource Center at www.ncvc.org/src (http://www.ncvc.org/src) or
http://www.ncvc.org/src/main.aspx?dbID=DB_People196 (http://www.ncvc.org/src/main.aspx?dbID=DB_People196).

Safety Planning for Stalking Victims

It is important that every victim create a personalized, detailed safety plan with the help of an experienced advocate or crisis counselor. Through this discussion, the victim and crisis counselor can identify people and practices that will help keep the victim safe.

The following are some specific suggestions:

Safety at Home and Personal Safety

• Check with the local police department. They may have a burglary division, crime prevention unit, or specially trained personnel who will conduct a security check around your residence and recommend measures to improve security.

• Secure all windows and door locks. Check the local hardware store for reinforcements, such as special window frame tools that prevent windows from opening more than a few inches.

• Be aware of places where a stalker could hide. Trim shrubbery, install outdoor lighting and check to be sure existing lighting works.

• If the apartment building has security staff, provide them with photo or description of stalker and copy of a restraining order if appropriate.

• Arrange for someone to check in with you at agreed-upon times.

• Involve others you trust, such as landlord and neighbors. Ask for their help keeping you safe. Provide them with a photo or description of the stalker and copies of restraining order if you have one.

• If you receive harassing phone calls or emails, work with your telephone or internet service providers to find out options for preserving evidence of the messages and filtering new messages. If you can afford two phone lines, consider getting a second line and give that number only to people you trust. Filter all calls on the first line through an answering machine or voicemail. This way, the stalker will continue to use the old line rather than trying to track your new number. You can avoid answering the stalker’s calls and still capture the messages as evidence.

• In most areas (for less than the cost of a second telephone line) you can get a service called RingMate. RingMate provides a second telephone number that rings with a different sound. A victim can give the new number to friends and family and choose to not answer the old number, or have an answering machine pick it up.

• Trace harassing phone calls with “Call Trace” (*57 on a touch tone phone or 1157 on a rotary phone) immediately after receiving one.

• Block your phone lines from Caller ID so your name and number cannot be revealed when placing calls. Make sure your number is unlisted and unpublished.

• Contact the police before opening any suspicious or unexpected packages, especially with unfamiliar return address.

• Use a private mail box such as through Mail Boxes Etc. to secure mail privacy. Remember to destroy discarded mail.

• You may be eligible for the Address Confidentiality Program (ACP). The ACP serves as a confidential mail forwarding system for victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, or stalking. The substitute address is used as the victim’s legal residence, as well as work and/or school address. Consequently, government records may be disclosed to the public without identifying the victim’s new location. For more information call the ACP at (617) 727-3261 or (866) SAFE-ADD.

Safety at Work or School

• Identify people at work whom you feel safe telling about the stalking.

• If the building has security personnel, provide them with a photo or description of the stalker and copy of the restraining order if appropriate.

• Involve your supervisor and building security in developing a plan for safely arriving and departing each day. Consider varying your departure and arrival times, and the route that you take to and from work. If possible, notify someone when you are leaving to look out for you.

• When possible, maintain a full tank of gas. Have an emergency plan and think about what you will do and where you will go, such as driving to a police station, if something happens on the way home from work.

• Ensure that your calls and mail received at work are strictly screened. Save copies of harassing e-mail at work.

• Use different routes when traveling to and from home, school or work.

• Talk to campus police, administrators, staff, and your resident assistant about your situation. Ask them to work with you to keep you safe and keep your personal information, such as your class schedule, secure.

• Accompany children to and from school bus stops.

• Remove residential address and phone number from checks.

• Carry a cellular phone. Many local domestic violence and sexual assault organizations provide victims free cellular phones that are programmed to dial 911 and SafeLink, the 24-hour Massachusetts statewide domestic violence hotline. Contact SafeLink at 1-877-785-2020 for more information.

Safety at Court

• Ask the victim advocate about a safe place where you can wait until your case is called.

• Talk with a court officer or police officer and arrange for an escort to your car or public transportation.

• Ask the judge to keep the defendant in the courtroom for a few extra minutes until you are safely on your way.

• Request that your address and phone number be impounded on all court documents.

• You may be eligible for the Address Confidentiality Program (ACP). The ACP serves as a confidential mail forwarding system for victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, or stalking. The substitute address is used as the victim’s legal residence, as well as work and/or school address. Consequently, government records may be disclosed to the public without identifying the victim’s new location. For more information call the ACP at (617) 727-3261 or (866) SAFE-ADD.

Documenting the Stalking

It is critical for all victims of stalking to keep a log, or diary of stalking incidents and behavior. The log should include information about any event that the victim believes to be tied to the stalking. Recording this information will help document the behavior for restraining order applications, divorce and child custody cases, or criminal prosecution.

Keep the log or notebook in a safe place, with a photo of the stalker, photocopies of restraining orders, letters or email printouts, and any other evidence of the stalking. When deciding what information to enter in the log, keep in mind that the log might one day be used as evidence in court and/or be seen by the stalker.

A log should include the following information about the stalker, if known:

• Stalker’s name and any aliases
• Address
• Date of birth
• Social security number
• Physical description
• Auto information
• Known hangouts
• Criminal history
• History of violence
• Access to weapons
• Photo(s)

The log should also include the following about each stalking incident and/or stalking behavior:

• Date
• Location
• Description of incident or behavior
• Names and contact information for witnesses
• Any action the victim took (calling police or friend)
• Name, badge number or identifying information for anyone the victim reports an incident to, if applicable (even if police do not make an arrest, a victim can ask officers to make a report of the incident and provide her with a copy)

The log should also include any information the victim feels would help authorities identify or locate the stalker.

For more information and helpful resources for victims and providers about stalking, please go to the National Center for Victims of Crime Stalking Resource Center at www.ncvc.org/src (http://www.ncvc.org/src).

Sources

National Center for Victims of Crime Stalking Resource Center (http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/Main.aspx).

Patricia Tjaden and Nancy Thoennes, “Stalking in America: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey,” National Institute of Justice and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Research in Brief (April 1998).

Blauuw. et al. "The Toll of Stalking," Journal of Interpersonal Violence (2002).

McFarlane et al. "Stalking and Intimate Partner Femicide," Homicide Studies (1999).

Mohandie et al. "The RECON Typology of Stalking: Reliability and Validity Based Upon a Large Sample of North American Stalkers." In Press, Journal of Forensic Sciences (2006).

Domestic Violence, Stalking, and Antistalking Legislation,” Attorney General’s First Annual Report to Congress under the Violence Against Women Act, National Institute of Justice Research Report (Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, April 1996).

“Domestic Violence, Stalking, and

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agentorange

01-24-2006, 09:55 PM

This one is important:
http://www.esia.net/Forms_of_Stalking.htm

This one is important to look at:
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False Stalking / False Victims False victims, as they are sometimes known, use a variety of situations to attract attention to themselves. In some cases they may harass their own family and friends in order to fabricate false evidence or witness reports. This type of stalker firmly believes that he or she is the real victim.

In a sense there is a victim - the perpetrator. Why victimize yourself? Perhaps the person noticed how kind and considerate others were to them, when they presented themselves as a victim some time in the past. In short - the perpetrator/victim takes immense pleasure from being cared for and being the center of attention. One very common trait of this type of stalker is to file false police report(s) against the "real stalking victim."

These stalkers are frequently delusional and irrational. When presented with the facts, this type of stalker will rationalize and manipulate everything he can and ignore even a direct question, in order to preserve his fantasy of being the victim. He will initiate conflicts and then twist them in his favor in an attempt to gain positive attention for himself. He feels very inferior to the victim whom he admires greatly, although he will rarely admit this to be true. In reality, this kind of stalker suffers from a severe lack of self-esteem.

This form of stalker, believing himself to be inferior, wronged or rejected by the ones they admire the most, begin harassing, following the victim, spreading tales, keeping tabs, and in many instances plot revenge. The primary motive is to bring the victim down by any means he can.

Another trait that is showing up more and more in this type of stalking is Munchhausen (munch-how-zen) syndrome or in layman terms "The Munch Bunch." This is the name given to patients who fake illness or obtain hospital treatment in order to get sympathy from family, friends, and most often the actual victim's attention. These individuals are a considerable waste of medical resources. Hospitals will often hold a file on these people in an attempt to recognize them before they are unwittingly admitted for unnecessary treatment. The major problem is that they skip from hospital to hospital and doctor to doctor.

Time after time you'll hear a victim say, "The hospital called, he attempted suicide or he's having a heart attack because I wouldn't meet with him." Far too often these individuals know how to "fake" illnesses or even go to the point of attempted suicide but knowing just how far to go before it becomes life threatening. All to get attention!

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Cyber Diva

01-24-2006, 10:09 PM

False Stalking / False Victims
False victims, as they are sometimes known, use a variety of situations to attract attention to themselves. In some cases they may harass their own family and friends in order to fabricate false evidence or witness reports. This type of stalker firmly believes that he or she is the real victim.

OMG! Sounds just like Shawn and Alan! :1cryhard:

agentorange

01-24-2006, 10:20 PM

One very common trait of this type of stalker is to file false police report(s) against the "real stalking victim."

Most municipalities require a crash course education in cyberstalking to realize the sheer magnitude of it. Sometimes, it takes months. Hopefully, times are changing, and each victim that stands their ground will make a difference for future victims.

RunFaYaLife

01-25-2006, 01:53 AM

Safety at Home and Personal Safety

If you receive harassing phone calls or emails, work with your telephone or internet service providers to find out options for preserving evidence of the messages and filtering new messages. If you can afford two phone lines, consider getting a second line and give that number only to people you trust. Filter all calls on the first line through an answering machine or voicemail. This way, the stalker will continue to use the old line rather than trying to track your new number. You can avoid answering the stalker’s calls and still capture the messages as evidence.

• In most areas (for less than the cost of a second telephone line) you can get a service called RingMate. RingMate provides a second telephone number that rings with a different sound. A victim can give the new number to friends and family and choose to not answer the old number, or have an answering machine pick it up.

• Trace harassing phone calls with “Call Trace” (*57 on a touch tone phone or 1157 on a rotary phone) immediately after receiving one.

• Block your phone lines from Caller ID so your name and number cannot be revealed when placing calls. Make sure your number is unlisted and unpublished.

• Contact the police before opening any suspicious or unexpected packages, especially with unfamiliar return address.

• Use a private mail box such as through Mail Boxes Etc. to secure mail privacy. Remember to destroy discarded mail.

• You may be eligible for the Address Confidentiality Program (ACP). The ACP serves as a confidential mail forwarding system for victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, or stalking. The substitute address is used as the victim’s legal residence, as well as work and/or school address. Consequently, government records may be disclosed to the public without identifying the victim’s new location. For more information call the ACP at (617) 727-3261 or (866) SAFE-ADD.

Documenting the Stalking

It is critical for all victims of stalking to keep a log, or diary of stalking incidents and behavior. The log should include information about any event that the victim believes to be tied to the stalking. Recording this information will help document the behavior for restraining order applications, divorce and child custody cases, or criminal prosecution.

Keep the log or notebook in a safe place, with a photo of the stalker, photocopies of restraining orders, letters or email printouts, and any other evidence of the stalking. When deciding what information to enter in the log, keep in mind that the log might one day be used as evidence in court and/or be seen by the stalker.

A log should include the following information about the stalker, if known:

• Stalker’s name and any aliases
• Address
• Date of birth
• Social security number
• Physical description
• Auto information
• Known hangouts
• Criminal history
• History of violence
• Access to weapons
• Photo(s)

The log should also include the following about each stalking incident and/or stalking behavior:

• Date
• Location
• Description of incident or behavior
• Names and contact information for witnesses
• Any action the victim took (calling police or friend)
• Name, badge number or identifying information for anyone the victim reports an incident to, if applicable (even if police do not make an arrest, a victim can ask officers to make a report of the incident and provide her with a copy)

The log should also include any information the victim feels would help authorities identify or locate the stalker.

False Stalking / False Victims

Interesting read..... looks like I have it covered concerning my little problem....the butt stalker and friends .....the false stalking/false victims section applies to a lot of various asshats associated with the car wreck(well known bash and trash board) as well as other nut jobs from TS and various other related discussion boards.

RunFaYaLife

01-25-2006, 02:04 AM

Most municipalities require a crash course education in cyberstalking to realize the sheer magnitude of it. Sometimes, it takes months. Hopefully, times are changing, and each victim that stands their ground will make a difference for future victims.

Luckily we have a cyber crimes unit in place here already... the head honcho happens to be a personal friend of the family...and has been apprised of the situation and documention as well as the history and propeneisty for butt talker's(and friends) erractic behavior for quite a while now.

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OOPS!
Bummer you can runco/lie but you can't hide from your own words...sux to be you

agentorange

01-25-2006, 04:00 PM

Alan, the mastermind (along with GB, spooky) of over 75 anonymous harassment IDs on ezboard, used to post vile, obscene, libelous profile pages about myself and anyone remotely associated with me, on the "real truth exposed" ezboard, who had actually managed to convince tek (one of the victims of that harassment campaign) that I had been behind the whole thing, now claims that it was tek who told him I was behind the whole thing!

Tekobari told us years ago that she knew for a fact that Baseloser had sent anonymous abusive emails to his friends to make it look as though he was the victim of a harassment campaign.

GB publicly admitted owning the real truth exposed board, and numerous harassment accounts--he admitted that on the basement thread on T & S. Toospooky admitted she was a member (and later it was discovered she was an admin, and owner of numerous harassment IDs herself) when GB attempted to blame her for the whole thing. Chopsbuster never admitted any involement, but his best friend (at the time) Jon outted him a year ago, as did some of chopsbuster's former accomplices. The sheer magnitude of that campaign was so vast, that it is hard to believe unless you had been there. I have a complete list of the ezboard IDs they used to harass and stalk, as well as copies of all the malicious web pages and profile pages they created, and a list of all the AIM IDs they created (some with my full name in the ID itself), as well as copies of every harassing message they sent me using the service, including every single email I received from anonymizer and other anonymous emailing services they employed. All of this was posted in depth on the old RJ. When TEK told me that chopsbuster had been working his manipulative scam trying to blame the victim (me) of harassing myself and my friends, I couldn't believe it, but I can't say I am surprised. Now, the story is that tek tried to convince him of this. Unreal, what a sleazebag he is.

Cyber Diva

01-25-2006, 04:36 PM

RunFaYaLife

01-26-2006, 12:03 AM

Sounds like you got it covered Base....more than covered.http://i1.tinypic.com/ml3029.gif

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la gazza ladra

01-26-2006, 01:08 AM

I find it interesting that the stalkers constantly accuse their targets of what they are doing........like they have some sort of disconnect in that regard.....or they fantasize that they are only doing paybacks for whatever imagined slights they have suffered. They don't realize that their targets couldn't give a rat's ass about their dull existence, at the same time they are on defcon 1 to find any word posted by the object(s) of their obsessions.

Oh and they give stuff away in their zeal to up chopsy's post counts too....guess they were bored with the whole zelda/deli/dm thing........selfish trolls/stalkers who only post when they can get their rocks off being haters. When people tell other people what is going on on other boards where they are not members, you find stuff out........similarly, when information is posted that only a select few people have you can tell where the leaks are....read: babes. It's called the process of elimination.

:1liar3: :1liar3: to the power of 6, 897, 386, 502, 784

RunFaYaLife

01-26-2006, 01:51 AM

Today, 10:47 AM
Whale Spirit
Senior Member

Rikki and Magpie just don't seem to grasp the concept of "clean hands." Does she think her own activities haven't been well documented? Would her "head honcho" friend care to see the work of Rikki's dirty hands? I have a feeling he's completely in the dark about what Rikki has been doing for years now.

The head of the cyber crimes unit in Rikki's area should be easy enough to find, and he can be brought up to speed on Rikki's history and current practice of stalking and harassment.

Rikki has already forgotten Magpie's harassment board which was shut down a couple of weeks ago, a board to which Rikki was one of the major contributors, posting contact information, personal emails and chats. She posted my emails before I posted hers and now she whines that she's being stalked and harassed. Poor Rikki.

http://i1.tinypic.com/ml42o1.jpg<-----<< Karen, Karen, Karen...my my no wonder you named yourself "whale"....what a lame defense.....you do whatever dear.....I have YEARS of doumentation on your fat ass as well as your lesibian lova Nostra/aka skunky......so give it your best lie/shot.
It appears you have a rather large hole where your brain should be...I can't help but laugh at your pathetic attempts at a defense....just one little hint...I have a huge collection...BTW.

YOU are the one who threatened to post emails etc first on the car wreck...all saved and documented ......OOPS.
Our so called harassment board had been sitting there vacant for years...except for the old "red inquisition".....
you and your little handful of total morons started this on not one but THREE of el choppo's bash and trash boards......now there is only ONE left.
Due to the many shut downs.....Gawd you are all idiots.

Oh and FYI neither me nor magpie do "stalking and harassment" that would be YOU and your handful of bored nanny's housewifes game.

Maybe you BABES and skunky should look on ebay for a cluephone.

:1kiss1: my ass

RunFaYaLife

01-26-2006, 02:32 AM

When people tell other people what is going on on other boards where they are not members, you find stuff out........similarly, when information is posted that only a select few people have you can tell where the leaks are....read: babes. It's called the process of elimination.

Yep ....
I think "Lucy"http://i1.tinypic.com/ml4bo5.jpg
has some 'xplaining to do...

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Clyde the Cloud............you're such a stupid fucktard...............
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Awww how sweet Rikki/thazzhole has company........make sure and share your enema's at nite girls..............Texasususus...............
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Talk about fucktard...more like Bustedtard....rotfl!

RunFaYaLife

01-26-2006, 02:50 AM

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more unfit parents would be hard to find..............I'm surprised the poor kid hasn't been molested at some trashy biker bash by now on the pool table............she deserves a jail sentence and with her record.....well................

Yeah well you are no prize either.....Geenduh you haven't cornered the market on fact finding......you know how it is in Texas.....nothing like a little road trip....to get the real facts...

sadie999

01-26-2006, 09:04 AM

Seems like the stalker who blames or accuses the victim is an emotional cousin to the wife beater who claims, "She made me hit her."

I've yet to see a woman grab her husband's fist and shove it into her own face or abdomen.

These guys remind me of two year olds in adult bodies. And they should be treated like two year olds - 2-3 year time-outs in 6x9 rooms with bars.

tekobari

01-26-2006, 03:26 PM

Base, did I ever apologize to you in public for thinking that harrassment name was you? If not, I do now. (I know I apologized in private.) Believe me, I was as surprised as could be when jon told me the truth. But I had to laugh my ass off. I was so dumb!

Now you apologize to me for being mean. Then we'll :1hug1:

:2gamecock

agentorange

01-26-2006, 03:31 PM

Hi, tek!

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this latest chopsbuster lie regarding his criminal conduct. So, you did not try to convince chopsbuster at the coven that I was behind the whole real truth exposed harassment campaign as he NOW claims? It was he, the mastermind of the whole thing, that tried to lay the blame on me, the victim (that makes more sense)? I'm curious what sort of manipulation, evidence, lies he could have told to convince people of this? He seems to continue doing it to others, so maybe if you speak of the tactics he used then, they'll realize it's the same tactics he's using now.

tekobari

01-26-2006, 03:37 PM

He confirmed that it was you. He wasn't the first one to tell me it was you. I believed them both. No, I won't tell you who the first person was.

Heartland

01-26-2006, 03:50 PM

I remember being told that by a few people back then, and none of them were Tek. I don't remember who the first one was to tell me. I must've been too busy whimpering, weeping, and talking in my little girl voice then. :rolleyes:

tekobari

01-26-2006, 03:54 PM

I've been thinking about this, base, and this is how I remember it happened. Someone told me it was you who'd made up the name to make your friends think they, too, were under attack. I got the name shitcanned by deMello immediately, because bliss walked me through writing a report. DeMello said it was a harassment account and it was linked to my eBay page, neither of which was allowed.

I later told chops what I had heard about that account and others--that they belonged to you, NOT to the Real Truth board. Chops knew that the account belonged to jon. Jon specifically told me that either they were on the phone together when it was made, or they were emailing when it was made--I honestly can't recall. But chops knew for a fact it was done on HIS side, not yours. Yet he not only continued to let me believe it, he continually brought up the lie of your making these accounts to troll your own people. I, like a nitwit, bought it.

Thank god jon isn't a liar. I really trust him. If he goes sour, I don't know what I'll do.

agentorange

01-26-2006, 04:12 PM

What I know for sure is that the following people were participating in the board, and/or fully aware of the details: chopsbuster, greatbiscotti, walkamuchee, iluvdrphil, and eva. shadowweb was allowed limited access, and maybe a couple others were too. I fully believe that toospooky was involved in the plotting as well (her own accomplices blamed her at the time!), given her history of doing that very thing over and over and over and over and over again. It would not surprise if every single one of the people involved would jump at the chance to blame me for stalking myself, or my friends, because such a story would immediately exonerate them and further torment me.

Boards like the ones they create, behind the scenes, supposedly to "compare notes", are nothing more than secret recruitment camps, and there's a damn good reason all the supposed "evidence" is posted so quietly, so hidden from view--it could not stand up to scrutiny. The latest one, the "whopper lounge", is just another in a series of these slander camps. It's amazing what a combination of anger, hatred, isolation from objectivity, and 6 years of out context quotes with misguided analysis can make a person look like, with the right sort of ringleader, and add to that a healthy dose of lies and forgery, as well as numerous ommissions, and you can have a group of people believing Mother Teresa is the antichrist. Sad, but true.

Heartland

01-26-2006, 04:20 PM

Lest we forget, it was many of the same group who were convinced that I was Irish Lass when she first showed up at T&S, and suspected that I was copying my posts (regarding eBay topics) from Dan Rather's newscasts. :sm1194:

This says to me that some or all were so bad at what they did (investigating scammers) that they didn't want to embarrass themselves with their own incompetency on a public board.

tekobari

01-26-2006, 06:06 PM

Base, I've wondered from time to time about two things regarding that board. First, who was the person who wrote me the really vile ez pm when I asked to see the evidence of your lies and your so-called "known" board IDs. And second, who were the people who attacked us after inviting us over there for a "discussion"? They were real assholes. It's was easy, on their turf, to attack us two with five or ten people. That was supposed to be a truce meeting or something.

God, it's all so LONG ago. I can barely remember this stuff.

agentorange

01-26-2006, 06:37 PM

The ID that invited us over and then attacked was owned by greatbiscotti. He used the ID to post to RJ a couple of times before the "invite", and used anonymizer to hide his IP. I think the ID was called "baselies" or something, I'll have to check, I have the threads copied on CD. That was the one ID he admitted to owning a couple of years later.

RunFaYaLife

01-27-2006, 02:43 AM

Now your threatening to come to my home???

Poor GenDUH.....
A few decades late and a lot of brain cells short are ya?...LMFAO!
Perhaps you and your little gopher whale shit should read my post a little
s-l-o-w-e-r and c-l-o-s-e-r.

The laughter is just more than I can........... "bearh"!!
:1crazy:

agentorange

01-27-2006, 02:54 AM

TEK, the owner of the real truth exposed board, greatbiscotti's ID (one of many) was "baseisaliar", and here's a copy of the thread where he invited us to "join":

http://www.ravagenation.com/BOARDPOSTSOLD/youappliedtomyboardsowhatdoyouwant.htm

agentorange

01-27-2006, 02:58 AM

I couldn't have found any of these archives a few months ago, but recently they were required in a meeting. I've got my computer stuff organized again, that's the good thing.

la gazza ladra

01-27-2006, 08:18 AM

I guess wenchie wins her bet then. Seems the skanky Gina is a little upset now that her identity and personal info is known.........now whale has to make an ass of herself and post that she knows why the Hague was shut down.

NEWS BULLETIN!!! We knew you guys would try to shut it down!! That was the whole point of the exercise!! We knew we had your info, if we didn't, you wouldn't have whined to get the board shut down in the first place. You people just don't get it. It has nothing to do with the URL, it's all about the people. We already had several other boards in place. It's not like we can't or won't talk to each other because you stalkers don't like the fact that we do.

Not to mention the fact that we have never been interested in anything you do except for when we got tired of your libelous filth. Now we know where you live and who you are. You should have left well enough alone. But noooo, you have to go after my husband.......that might not be a good idea. You might want to quit while you are ahead. He only belongs to one board and that has to do with cymbals, but if you mess with him or any of his musician friends I think it will not be good thing. We can tell them where to send the summons. I don't think they will be that intimidated by some white trash whore from Metarie LA........

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01-27-2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:
Now your threatening to come to my home???

Poor GenDUH.....
A few decades late and a lot of brain cells short are ya?...LMFAO!Perhaps you and your little gopher whale shit should read my post a little
s-l-o-w-e-r and c-l-o-s-e-r.

HEY SkunGy I am well aware of the Texas laws....waaaayy ahead of you in that little game.
Gawd you are beyond retarded....can you say s-h-o-r-t b-u-s?

I see you have not addressed the above so I will repost it.......you lying,low life, backwoods,uneducated,ranting lunatic.... :1crazy:

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01-27-2006, 05:50 PM

http://www.therossshow.com/showthread.php?t=4259

There maybe you can figure it out......not that it's not already available to your ingornant ass already.

:1kiss1: my ass

RunFaYaLife

02-03-2006, 02:22 AM

FYI... Skunkymonkey/whale/chops etc. that would also include the Attic ....and various other posts where you have threatened or harassed other poster's that date back to 2002 on.

say........"when"

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02-03-2006, 08:03 AM

Cyberbullies page (http://www.bullyonline.org/related/cyber.htm)

Just my two cents. Not that I understand ANYTHING about this situation.

Heartland

02-03-2006, 10:31 AM

LOL, there are two different "situations" going on here, Sandy. I know about one, but not the other. Makes you want to claw your own eyes out, doesn't it?

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I think the above posts speak for themselves.....GinDUH/skunkymonkey/Nostradumazz<--------<<and man are you ever!

OMG!!!! aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaa
aaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaahhhaaaa(taking a breath)aaaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaahhaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaaa ahaaaaah!!!

Gina Runco Hutcherson....Beaumont, Texas......I hope you didn't give any "chings" for that information.........ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why yes .......yes they do!! ROTFL

Parklane64

02-12-2006, 11:02 PM

From bb's link:

The Number One rule for dealing with this type of behaviour is: don't respond, don't interact and don't engage

It takes two to tango.

To paraphrase a line from 'Leaving Las Vegas', "Don't say something stupid to somebody stupid."

A coupla ya are flamin' enablers.

:sm1167:

RunFaYaLife

02-13-2006, 12:07 AM

Parklane64
Why don't you come back and tell me ALL about it when it is your and your familes, as well as your friends PI that is being plastered all over the place as well as slanderous LIES.

Thanks for opening that door BTW. parklane
ummmmm chops looks like that attempt at
editing came a little too little a little too late.....
I have it ALL....and I'm not the
only one.

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agentorange

02-13-2006, 01:58 AM

Whatever you just said, it makes no sense.

RunFaYaLife

02-13-2006, 01:52 PM

Whatever you just said, it makes no sense.

riiiiiight ......go to bed base.

RunFaYaLife

02-14-2006, 12:33 AM

Skunky/nostradumAZZ
Sha!!!! Are you looking at my lumpy ass???
Rikki Franklin Taylor Taylor is my STALKER from Levelland, Texas who has threatened a roadtrip to show me/my family "CRAZY".

RunFaYaLife
Yeah well you are no prize either.....Geenduh you haven't cornered the market on fact finding......you know how it is in Texas.....nothing like a little road trip....to get the real facts...

Still not getting it are ya GinDUH?

Here's a hint;

YOU UGLY! and you are still breathing.....HELLO? :1crazy:
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02-14-2006, 11:16 AM

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I'm sure you among the ones contacted......whalebitch.

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02-14-2006, 11:17 AM

RunFaYaLife

02-18-2006, 05:41 PM

Oh how cute.....an attempt at covering your tracks....and spinning the facts
GinDUH <-----my personal stalker?
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I understand how Java feels.....THAZZHOLE has stalked my aged father (a Katrina victim) and family and IS currently making threats to DRIVE to my home and "SHOW ME (my family) WHAT CRAZY IS"............. since I am not the only one threatened and information on 3 of my grown kids and Father have been posted, MULTIPLE police reports and charges forth coming...... The stalkers posted accusations accusing me of criminal offenses, then had the nerve to post threats of violence when I turn the the lights on them showing them to be the roaches of the internet.
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02-18-2006, 05:59 PM

There is just one teenie little problem, I have it ALL saved, so you can spin it until the cows come home......
You seem to forget I am
a Texas Native .....not a wannabe....I know what that means....apparently YOU
(my Stalker) do not.
You and your leetle stalker buds are the one who started this game.....I have PROOF OF FACT .......so bring it.
Since you DID remove some of my (not accurate) info I will do the same....with the exception of ONE name....you remove mine....
I remove YOURS...you put ANY of mine back I will reciprocate.

that's the way it works......GOT IT?

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02-18-2006, 10:15 PM

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Thaz looks like Kathleen Ferrier ... whoever the heck that is.

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Oh dear!
and Karen S..whale spirit looks like this......perhaps that is why
she is such a miserable stalker.....spending all day eating frosting out of
a can ....and stalking/trolling on the internet...so desperate she still thinks nostradumazz is a man...what a pitiful existance.

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tekobari

02-19-2006, 09:48 AM

I'm sorry, but I don't understand a word of this. However, it's interesting how pissed off you are, Run. Something very bad must be going on.

michizono

02-19-2006, 09:49 AM

had reading comprehension problems.
Not to mention the fact she repeats fabricated threats over and over and over with nauseating CAPS and BOLDS and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
What a maroon :1bonk1:

She's a loser with no life other than her pitiful existence on the internet. She's a crass-mouthed, uneduated and pitiful liar. :1liar3:

Her "boasts" are only rivaled by her filthy mouth. Show us a picture of yourself Gina. I bet you are a looker fer sure :1eek2:

sad, really :1chirol_r

RunFaYaLife

02-19-2006, 10:06 PM

Yep...... old skunky is NOT a looker.......maybe that is why she is such miserable loud mouthed biotch.
kind of reminds me of a rather "plump" Cruella Deville.

socrfan2

02-20-2006, 05:36 PM

RunFaYaLife

02-20-2006, 06:29 PM

You did the "pity poor me" bit in the other thread, kvetching how the snobs at TRB/TRS never made you feel welcome.

Do you really wonder why that is? I can explain using real short words and talking real slow, if you'd like.

I see you are also suffering from intentional a lack of reading comprehension skills
or maybe just a tad delusional?
There was no "poor me" nonsense in my post.
if that is what you are seeking....I suggest you check out the car wretch for that.
OR
could it be you are suffering from a case of bullshit artist syndrome like your brotha chops?
regardless....let me explain in real short words for ya what I think about your useless drivel.

FOAD

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02-20-2006, 06:38 PM

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Thaz, aka RunFaYaLife, is the most perfectly ridiculous honker in the flock of geese that migrated from Rumjungle when it was shut down exactly one year ago. Life began for her in 2002 when, for one magic moment, she was mistaken for a sockpuppet of Basestealer's, an accident of fate which caused her tiny heart to flutter and which sent her tumbling, vagina a-quiver, into the chubby arms of the Fat Bastard, who in those halcyon days still sat enthroned in his imagination as "the King of T&S". Ever since that proud day, Thaz has borne on her breast the insignia of RUMJUNGLE MORON, but her unstinting efforts to win Base's favor by bashing his enemies invariably founder on the rocks of Incoherence (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=96240&postcount=49) and Incomprehensibility (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=95728&postcount=44). Even her patron was moved to tell her (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=95563&postcount=42), in the midst of her latest outpouring of inanities at the Dross Hole, "Whatever you just said, it makes no sense", and a twittering Tek offered the observation (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=96268&postcount=54), "I'm sorry, but I don't understand a word of this." Yet on she plunges, and on and on and on, with a torrent of still-born totems that consist mainly of cut-and-pastes of her own prior pustulations, while the rosslings ignore her almost completely. (Powerhouse's reply (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=96241&postcount=50) was a "Snoopy" smiley and nothing else.)

Thaz has spent the last several days in an orgasmic state of euphoria because she imagines that a certain Carwasher (who has actually been absent from TCWL for nearly a week) was cowed by her threats into removing a reference to Thaz from her signature; and Thaz's reaction to this imagined triumph has been to intensify her campaign of threats against that person and to ask another if she'd like to be next (http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=96248&postcount=52); yet in fact the signature was edited by me to remove the reference to Thaz, whose own signature still contains my member's full name and who has threatened to visit her home and to show her what "crazy" means... as if one couldn't tell simply by reading her posts. http://thecarwashlive.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes1.gif
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Do you REALLY believe all of this? If so then you are an idiot.

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02-20-2006, 06:48 PM

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Interesting......*cough*

However, I find it very odd that chops buTTer chose to leave mine and other's
PI hanging out there since BEFORE Christmas......and has now decided to "to do the right thing"....... riiiiiiight......what happened did chops suddenly grow a set of balls or a concinence? I really do not think so......I think SHE is trying to hide her little manaic attacks...which cannot be hidden because I have them ALL saved....me and others.

I see mine is gone so I will recropricate.
until next time.....enuff said.

socrfan2

02-20-2006, 07:18 PM

I see you are also suffering from intentional a lack of reading comprehension skills
or maybe just a tad delusional?
There was no "poor me" nonsense in my post.
if that is what you are seeking....I suggest you check out the car wretch for that.
OR
could it be you are suffering from a case of bullshit artist syndrome like your brotha chops?
regardless....let me explain in real short words for ya what I think about your useless drivel.

FOAD

LOL!!! :2headspin

I'm so sorry for insulting you!!! I can see that you're exactly the sort of high-class individual that we'd love to welcome here!!! :1chirol_r

I can see that you'd surely be an asset at most any trailer park in the US of A.

:1chirol_c

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02-20-2006, 07:39 PM

biondobabe

02-20-2006, 07:57 PM

Ya know what's sad... a middle aged, balding, sexually confused (or just deceptive) has been (not even good enough for b-flicks) actor whose only existance is to allign himself with sociopaths and stalkers, harass strangers, make up libelous stories about strangers and doing this all behind a 17" in screen thinking he is the shit. :stfu: CHOPS

RunFaYaLife

02-21-2006, 03:22 AM

Chops the confident liar....

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I find it very odd that chops buTTer chose to leave mine and other's
PI hanging out there since BEFORE Christmas......and has now decided to "to do the right thing"....... riiiiiiight......what happened did chops suddenly grow a set of balls or a concinence? I really do not think so......I think SHE is trying to hide her little manaic attacks...which cannot be hidden because I have them ALL saved....me and others.

I see mine is gone so I will recropricate.
until next time.....enuff said.
I'm so sorry to disappoint you, Thuz, but it was entirely my decision and action, nobody else's. I don't want others' personal info to appear in signatures or in custom titles. Had I been aware that your info was being published in that manner, I would have removed it much earlier -- I did not know, because you neglected to bring it to my attention. Which part of this (http://www.thecarwashlive.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3591&postcount=308) post did you not understand? Let it be perfectly clear to you, however, that I know full well that the tit-for-tat posting of PI in this instance began with you; my member retaliated by posting yours only after you had posted hers and threatened her. I won't allow signatures or custom titles to be abused, yet nor will I interfere with any Carwasher's natural right to defend herself if attacked. So be warned, and check yourself.
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IF LT would quit signing her private emails "LAURA" then people wouldn't think that's her name. My God, Stacy you're a FUCKTARD to be sure. file:///C:/My%20Documents/good%20stuff/Maggot%20Pie%20and%20other%20gRoss%20recipes%20-%20Page%208%20-%20The%20Carwash%20Live_files/lol1.gif
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Sha!!!! Are you looking at my lumpy ass???

Rikki Franklin Taylor is my STALKER from Levelland, Texas

agentorange

02-21-2006, 03:43 AM

Rikki, Alan started the very thread on his harassment board that has my unique last name in the title, and then published my full name within that thread numerous times, and allowed his members to do same. Your post to this thread make you sound like a lunatic, really, and I'm hoping you take this as a friend, I know what you're going through but I don't understand most of what you're posting here. To an outsider, you appear insane.

Alan has already been proven a liar, a stalker, a criminal harasser, and a disgusting example of humanity. Are you trying to reason with him or show the objective lurkers your side? You're not effective in either case. REALLY!

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Just when I think I've read the stupidest post ever by ladra Gagpoop, she goes and post another. Just as the strength of a lone brick will not save a poorly built structure, your boldface LIES do not redeem your ignorant, incoherent words or lack of education.

IF LT would quit signing her private emails "LAURA" then people wouldn't think that's her name. My God, Stacy you're a FUCKTARD to be sure.
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Sha!!!! Are you looking at my lumpy ass???

Rikki Franklin Taylor is my STALKER from Levelland, Texas

RunFaYaLife

02-21-2006, 04:09 AM

Yes Base that post above yours is unreadable......so I added the words in text format.

One more thing chops the liar.......

Let it be perfectly clear to you, however, that I know full well that the tit-for-tat posting of PI in this instance began with you; my member retaliated by posting yours only after you had posted hers and threatened her. I won't allow signatures or custom titles to be abused, yet nor will I interfere with any Carwasher's natural right to defend herself if attacked. So be warned, and check yourself.

This is yet another blantant lie and you KNOW it....either you are ill informed or trying damned hard to come off like you are.....the board in question our old board The Hague.....was from 2004.....there was no "PI" posted there about
any of your loonie toone members until AFTER they posted ours.....that would
be skunky and "WAIL" the town crier.
I suggest you check yourself and what you are pontificating about and WHERE you heard these ridiclious statements. Not one of us went looking for anyone's PI until ours showed up on YOUR BOARD....that would be your LATEST board that is....we have all seen other's PI plasterd all over your other now defunct car wrecks.

SO you can drop the patronizing act.....you are a liar you have been lying all along and will continue to do so because that is what you do best.....you and the rest of your liar's club car wreck members.

:stfu: CHOPS

RunFaYaLife

09-21-2006, 12:24 AM

Car Wreck is posting names again.

hhhhhmmmm

Do they want to play?

la gazza ladra

09-21-2006, 12:29 AM

I do believe socrfan should serve chops his crow now.

agentorange

09-21-2006, 12:30 AM

RunFaYaLife

09-21-2006, 02:19 AM

Great Idea!!

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 07:42 AM

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 08:29 AM

When did they ever STOP posting names? I think I'll start a new thread documenting each instance of it--it will make filing reports to ebay, ISPs, hosts, and law enforcement that much easier. As it is, I have to track down the instances one by one when they are requested.

Brandon, this was also posted at TCWL by...larry, any idea what he's talking about?

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09-20-2006, 06:34 PM

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OMG! The fits of ecstasy I find myself in while emailing the last few losers (or simply uninformed peeps that still have a link to basestealer.com) while posting that two more NARUd freaks are being sheltered and defended on his gay little dead chat board is driving me insane. I should calm down but there are 80 more to go.

I just love it when he snuggles up with the nails in his coffin, lolololololol ;-) hahaha
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Puzzlegoddess (PG) is also posting first, and last names with a persons complete address, and phone number, in each of her posts. She used to only do that in private post. :(

We were asked to document her harassment, and to provide LE with the transcripts of her harassing, threatening phone calls, as well as those of her associates, etc. Afterwards, Puzzlegoddess in particular "ramped up" her meaness and harassment and published that she vowed to do so. She also filed FALSE police reports against others, claiming she was the victim of online harassment, naming names and boards, however, never mentioning the Car Wash board.

There's little anyone can do. They do believe they are above the law.

For more info on what they're capable of, visit:

http://devala.com/news.html

Also, when the Car Wash-3 was "locked down" evidence of plotting and scheming were archived, etc.

Don't underestimate these dangerous stalkers. It's best not to anger them. Don't ever post about them, if you don't want to be harassed, stalked, and threatened by them. They are online terrorists, gang-stalkers of the worst kind.

www.networkstalking.org

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 09:20 AM

Puzzlegoddess announces on Trouble's board that she's meaner than ever and is about to ramp it up. This statement was made AFTER she'd filed a series of FALSE police reports against other board owners, and their members.

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:21 am

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I feel I have mellowed a tremendous amount over the last year.

I wonder why that is?

Have YOU mellowed on the boards? Or no?

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:35 pm

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Hmmm. More opinionated, but yet more of a fence sitter, ssnafu?

As for me, I'm meaner than ever and expect to ramp it up in the near future.

http://www.thefargingiceholes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=332

Here's a threat of physical violence from PG from Feb. 2004. Wonder how much meaner can she get?

Feb-08-04, 01:10 AM

puzzlegoddess

Thank you Sadie. Thank you gabs. Thank you ToyRanch, for nothing.

By the way, ToyRanch, did you know that if you can't think of something to say, you can use the feature called the CLOSE THIS WINDOW? Then none of your nonsense will be seen by the entire community.

Or, I could drive over there to [edited location] and whip your smart ass.

http://www.otwa.com/community/archive/index.php/t-10275.html

Another vile post by PG from March 2004:

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puzzlegoddess

WORK IT!
Posts: 275
(3/6/04 10:49 pm)

Re: To the Rat

As I said earlier to the rat, fuck you rat. Fuck you and your nasty naked tail. Fuck you and enjoy the peanut butter, rat, because the trap is slamming down.

http://p085.ezboard.com/ftimeforfrm49.showMessageRange?topicID=1199.topic&start=21&stop=40

More current threats of violence have been archived and provided to LE regarding this group of internet gang-stalkers.

agentorange

09-21-2006, 02:04 PM

#698
09-20-2006, 06:34 PM

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OMG! The fits of ecstasy I find myself in while emailing the last few losers (or simply uninformed peeps that still have a link to basestealer.com) while posting that two more NARUd freaks are being sheltered and defended on his gay little dead chat board is driving me insane. I should calm down but there are 80 more to go.

I just love it when he snuggles up with the nails in his coffin, lolololololol ;-) hahaha

That is more psycho FOD-babble. He told me a several months ago that he was ritualistically emailing everyone who had placed a link to my website on their website, spreading sick lies about me, to convince them to remove my link. I don't use basestealer.com for business, nor does it earn me a single penny. The site was there to help people--if those people would believe a sawed off runt's lies without asking me, they don't deserve to be associated with my site in the first place. That he would dedicate his time to this pointless endeavor shows the world more of his sick, true nature.

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 03:33 PM

Wow. How did he get the list of people who linked to your site? Sounds like another act of stalking, whatever he's doing there. :sm1132:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 03:38 PM

Please post links/quotes from the sites you've read. Here's something I found on cartbay, one of the few things worth mentioning:

Quote:
What are the common characteristics of cyber predators?

• The most alarming thing about Internet predators is they don’t seem to fit any definitive profile. There are some basic similarities among predators but beyond that, they are not easily discernible.

• Computer Savvy—They must be able to maneuver and manipulate the Internet. [or have connections with those who do.]

• Often, they are college graduates

• Successful careers—They must be able to afford the necessary equipment, and to be able to network .

• Male—When women are involved, it is often as an accomplice.

Predators typically go through communication development with their victims as they aim to develop a trusting relationship.

Through a variety of means and methods, predators work to develop a bond with their victims and establish a trusting relationship in a seemingly innocent progression.

Chat Rooms

• Many predators lurk in chat rooms. They scan screen names and profiles, weeding out potential victims and identifying specific characteristics for each. They model their own screen names and profiles to lure people into conversation.

Private Chat Rooms

• An invitation for a private chat is not uncommon and predators make use of this. They are isolating their prey from the herd and initiating a relationship. (Later they invite them to the car wash!).

Instant Messaging

• IM offers a predator even more privacy. Predators will attempt to move the relationship to this level. But people need to realize, IM may be the starting point. Predators research profiles and can IM those they find appealing and have made themselves accessible.

E-mail

• The next stepping-stone involves e-mail. E-mail ensures longer, more sustained communication and allows a connection when not simultaneously logged in or signed on.

Shared Interests

• A predator will mold himself or herself into someone appealing and interesting to chat with. Once contact is initiated, the luring and seduction process, known as “grooming,” begins.

• Common ground and shared interests are imperative. The predator will echo the person’s likes and dislikes, feigning similar preferences and favorites. And he may pretend to own things the other person wants.

• At some point, the recruited person begins to believe in the relationship. The predator will push to exchange e-mail addresses or IM screen names, allowing more private, intimate communication.

Trust

• The predator works hard to build trust. He appears interested in literally everything discussed, always understanding and agreeing. He is not only a friend, he is the best friend possible.

Secrecy

• Isolation and secrecy play an important role. The predator will discourage the inclusion of others, as they “simply won’t understand.”

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Wanted to add....

http://dmoz.org/Society/Crime/Prevention/Stalking/desc.html

Stalking is defined as the willful and repeated following, watching, and/or harassing of another person, sometimes done out of obsession or derangement. In most cases, the purpose of stalking is to force a relationship with an unwilling or unavailable target. The act of stalking is a continuous process, consisting of numerous incidents. Stalking is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom they have no relationship (or no longer have). For the most part, the separate acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but taken together they do, as there is a cumulative effect. Contrary to other crimes that usually consist of a single act, stalking consists of a series of actions, which in themselves can be legal, such as calling on the phone or sending emails. Most stalking cases do not rise to extreme levels of violence or harassment.
:1evil2:

The Kings Noyse

09-21-2006, 03:41 PM

ARTICLE (http://networkstalking.org/wordpress/2006/08/31/doj-defines-vengeance-terrorism-stalking/)

DOJ Defines Vengeance/Terrorism Stalking
U.S. Department of Justice defines “Vengeance/Terrorism Stalking”

http://www.ojp.gov/ovc/assist/nvaa99/chap21-2.htm

VENGEANCE/TERRORISM STALKING

The final stalking category is fundamentally different from the other three. Vengeance stalkers do not seek a personal relationship with their targets. Rather, vengeance/terrorist stalkers attempt to elicit a particular response or a change of behavior from their victims. When vengeance is their prime motive, stalkers seek only to punish their victims for some wrong they perceive the victim has visited upon them. In other words, they use stalking as a means to “get even” with their enemies.

The most common scenario in this category involves employees who stalk employers after being fired from their job. Invariably, the employee believes that their dismissal was unjustified and that their employer or supervisor was responsible for unjust treatment. One bizarre variation on this pattern is the case of a scout master who was dismissed for inappropriate conduct and subsequently decided to stalk his entire former scout troop - scouts and scout leaders alike.

A second type of vengeance or terrorist stalker, the political stalker, has motivations that parallel those of more traditional terrorists. That is, stalking is a weapon of terror used to accomplish a political agenda. Utilizing the threat of violence to force the stalking target to engage in or refrain from engaging in particular activity. For example, most prosecutions in this stalking category have been against anti-abortionists who stalk doctors in an attempt to discourage the performance of abortions.

The Kings Noyse

09-21-2006, 03:56 PM

Stalking is defined as the willful and repeated following, watching, and/or harassing of another person, sometimes done out of obsession or derangement. In most cases, the purpose of stalking is to force a relationship with an unwilling or unavailable target. The act of stalking is a continuous process, consisting of numerous incidents. Stalking is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom they have no relationship (or no longer have). For the most part, the separate acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but taken together they do, as there is a cumulative effect. Contrary to other crimes that usually consist of a single act, stalking consists of a series of actions, which in themselves can be legal, such as calling on the phone or sending emails.This just perfectly describes Alan, Karl, Stephanie, Larry, Java, and quite a few other TCW psychos.

Heartland

09-21-2006, 04:21 PM

The Kings Noyse

09-21-2006, 05:24 PM

Hey Artie, I was told yesterday that you've posted my first and last name on your stalking website. Care to explain yourself, since I've never posted your last name, nor have I ever done business with you, sent you an e-mail, or posted my last name anywhere on these boards?Since I don't have any "stalking website," either you are mistaken, or this is just another example of you lying to this community.

However, I do maintain with others an anti-stalking web site at http://networkstalking.org, and if you have any objection to any of the content that appears on that site then you are free to contact the webmaster and voice your concerns.

While we're on the subject, would you care to explain yourself and your purpose represented by the following statement posted by you to the eBay T&S forums in December 2002?"You are well aware that I’m referring to your and your wife’s other accounts. I’d be happy to provide those ID’s to anyone who e-mails me, providing I recognize your ID….”Now you didn't seem to have any problem then with passing around my first and last name, my wife's first and last name, our business names, and our eBay transactional identities, along with your own vapid commentary about our business history, punctuated with your idiotic, uninformed opinions concerning our business practices, to "anyone who e-mails [you], providing [you] recognize [their] ID." In fact, this has been your program since 2002, so just how did you muster the brazen temerity to question any slight manner of token reciprocation after all this time, after we have tolerated four (4) years of your harassment, libel, abuse, and blatant intrusions into our privacy? You are undoubtedly one of the best living examples of hypocrisy in the entire world.

Did you actually imagine what you have been doing to us and to others is "okay" because it's being done in secrecy? Or did you simply think you could lie because what you've been doing is not out in the open? Think again. I think any honest person would be driven quite insane by having to master and to abide by the factitious ethical constructs you and the other board lunatics have fashioned into your own zany private morality.

Heartland

09-21-2006, 05:53 PM

Blues Blvd. could learn a few obfuscation techniques from you, Artie.

I didn't even know your last name until Nuke posted it after you shut down the last version of TCWL. So your insinuation that I have posted or passed around your real name or any other contact info is a lie. That you would blame me for what Nuke or others do on boards to which I am not even registered, and post my name because of it. is beyond all reason.

Nor have I posted your and your wife's selling IDs anywhere, nor did I e-mail them to anyone. Do you have any proof of this accusation? No, of course you don't. There is very recent proof that your wife has posted my selling ID, though, and you just did it again. Why do you continue to cry victim when you are the aggressor, Artie? Are you really that delusional?

I have done nothing to you in "secrecy" or otherwise. I have had no contact with or about you outside of these boards. Again, please post proof of your accusations, or recant.

You need to understand that you aren't important enough to me to even mention you in my private conversations. I have far more interesting things to talk about. I may have laughed in private once or twice about your and your wife's wackiness, but other than that, I have done nothing untoward regarding your personal information or your business information.

Your repeated posting of a post I made four years ago on an eBay board proves absolutely nothing. I didn't lie about the feedback your wife left for you, did I? She did leave feedback for you. You then attempted to deny it, and I made the offer to PROVE MY ACCUSATION, something you and your ditzy wife have yet to do in regards to the accusations you make against me.

Why don't you post that entire thread from 2002 instead of just taking one post out of context, Artie?

If you didn't want people to notice that feedback, perhaps you should've told her not to leave it in the first place. Feedback is public info (unless the user makes it private), as are eBay user IDs. You don't even have to be logged in to see any of it. Any statement to the contrary is false.

As long as my name and the contact info of other innocent posters is published on your stalking website, I will continue to refer to it as your stalking website ... and there's not a thing you can do about it.

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 06:42 PM

Hey Artie, I was told yesterday that you've posted my first and last name on your stalking website. Care to explain yourself, since I've never posted your last name, nor have I ever done business with you, sent you an e-mail, or posted my last name anywhere on these boards?

Not that it matters to anyone, Sandy, and I bet you didn't mean to LIE :1kool1-ai however....your last name Martin, was published by you on this board, in the following discussion, about the closure of TCWL, by Devala.com in November of 2005:

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85946&postcount=81

Interesting choice for a sock-puppet ID, hmmm? :irollers7

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85947&postcount=82

I dunno, what does "Martin" mean?

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85949&postcount=84

:2slampan: Martin is a German first name.

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85951&postcount=85

LOL, it's a last name, too. Mine.

The name is actually derived from the French word for "soldier" and is now used in many countries as either a first or last name.

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http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85868&postcount=68

It's too bad chopsbuster is too internet stupid to install his own vbulletin software, or to use an ftp program to load files to his own website. He's had years to learn, to fine tune his stalking, but he's never learned that?

It was just last week that I backed up every thread on the cardump and burned several CDs. The board may be gone, the posts may be gone forever, but the fact that they were made in the first place can never be erased.

--
http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85944&postcount=79

I bet chopsbuster is once again in a frenzy over the possible publishing of his invisible forums, the ones he claimed (again) never existed. What's even more alarming to his membership is the half that lied for chopsbuster, the half that were allowed into the invisible forums, and the half that were lied to, the half that were never allowed in.
The very day this third version of the cardump opened for business, chopsbuster posted to the vbulletin help board using a sock puppet, complaining about he was having a hard time hiding his secret invisible forums from being found out:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php?do=view&bugid=1652
Martin Oct 18th 2005 5:06pmWhen forums are set to invisible the thread and post count for the forums are still being displayed in the Forum Stats on Forum Home.

http://**************.com/forums/index.php

All forums are currently set to invisible. Updating counters has no effect. In order to bypass this I had to set all threads as moderated and update the forum cache.

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 06:57 PM

I didn't even know your last name until Nuke posted it after you shut down the last version of TCWL.

Oops! Guess you forgot we have the private posts and archives from EZ board, too, huh dumbass?

You don't remember Hanna's assignments to OUT eBay sellers? Their first and last name? Too bad. We do.

More to come.... get ready Sandy, you're on candid camera!!

Heartland

09-21-2006, 06:57 PM

WTF? I didn't publish my last name, someone else did, without my permission. Was that you and/or your husband, too? I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was.

What a dimwitted rationalization for your stalking behavior on your stalking board!

:2slampan:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 07:02 PM

That you would blame me for what Nuke or others do on boards to which I am not even registered...

:1rotflmao

That is EXACTLY what you do. Now, why would we want to do that? You blame other people who you think have left the boards. Think again.

Heartland

09-21-2006, 07:04 PM

Oops! Guess you forgot we have the private posts and archives from EZ board, too, huh dumbass?

You don't remember Hanna's assignments to OUT eBay sellers? Their first and last name? Too bad. We do.

More to come.... get ready Sandy, you're on candid camera!!

Yada yada yada. Your threats are meaningless, because you have yet to provide proof that I've done anything to anyone. :sm1167:

Yet you are the one who has gone into people's real lives and interfered with their families and their personal affairs, aren't you? Yes, we know all about your penchant for calling relatives, lawyers, and anyone else who will take your call and listen for two minutes before hanging up and blocking your number.

You sure do seem to be obssessed with Hanna. Why is that, I wonder? Do you think you can summon her with lies? 'Fraid not. She's immune to your sleazy little game.

SMILE

Heartland

09-21-2006, 07:05 PM

That is EXACTLY what you do. Now, why would we want to do that? You blame other people who you think have left the boards. Think again.

Prove it. :sm1167:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 07:14 PM

WTF? I didn't publish my last name, someone else did, without my permission.

Now, you're just going to talk nonsense? Do you mean to say you didn't give permission to Happy to say the name Martin? Then you didn't give permission to yourself to add that that was your last name? Oh, okay.

Was that you and/or your husband, too?

Now, you're just going to add more nonsense, is that why so many people have been contacting one another about you Sandy, who are up in arms about what you've done to people over the years? You're up to your eyeballs in skullduggery. What a surprise you thought you got away with it.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was.

If it was what? Happy? No, we are not happy, happy is Happy, but you already knew that, huh Sandy.

:1liar3:

...your stalking behavior..

Now, we have years of archives wherein you've stalked, libeled, and harassed others, yet you turn it all back around on one of your victims? No big surprise.

We even have you instructing others on how to buy from people on eBay just to get their contact info, what for? To stalk them? Should we show you in public, what you did? Or maybe that should be kept private? What do you think? It's up to you.. Sandy, loon.

:1kiss1:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 07:20 PM

Prove it. :sm1167:

We will, the tips are coming in!

Some geezers though, have been so destroyed by you Sandy, do they even have a voice left? What will we tell the old folks, Sandy? Or the mentally ill? :1crazy:

Maybe some have even changed their name, joined the witness protection program to get away from you, what do you think, Sandy? Isn't that a possibility?

:1eek2:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 07:28 PM

Yes, we know all about your penchant for calling relatives, lawyers, and anyone else who will take your call and listen for two minutes...
Do you, Sandy? Or, is that more libel? I say it's libel because it never happened like you say.

As for Hanna? The EZ board archives (private fora) have demonstrated her need to play a sleazy, but dangerous game.

Did you ever wonder what would happen if people found out about Hanna and her Car Wash sisters? You've begged Polonsky not to bring out the private forums. Did you know he'd planned to anyway before we shut it all down?

He had big plans for you, Sandy. We just stopped him. That's why he had private forums, hidden from your view, Sandy. :2slampan:

JavaNoire

09-21-2006, 08:00 PM

Brandon, my name, 1st & last, was posted on Ross by Diva, She also posted the state I live in on Ross.

They had my full name, locale(address, I think) & employer plastered to hell & back across the net. That they've FINALLY removed/shut down those sites indicates only that someone's made em nervous about their ongoing, well documented harassment of so many whose offenses amounted to no more than disagreeing with what they've done to people.

I hope you plan on giving them a well earned page in the lists you're comprising.

JavaNoire

09-21-2006, 08:17 PM

Where has Sandy *begged* or even so much as requested that Alan not reveal the private fora? EVERYTHING I've seen her post expressed little beyond indifference.

Now, I hate to break confidences BUT I've never seen Sandy say anything in LC, Espresso or emails that she'd be ashamed to say publicly. Hell, I imagine she'd shout damned near all of it into a megaphone atop Mt Rushmore with news camers recording it all.

These fools have no real idea of what constitutes deeply personal for most of us. They naturally(& erroneously) assume that private equates with *bad*.

The Kings Noyse

09-21-2006, 08:37 PM

Brandon: The above post by your client is a blatant lie.

Let her prove that Diva has posted her first and last name here at TRS. Prove it right now, or let her stop repeating her lie.

It's interesting to note that your client posted her full name herself at Steel Dragon on a public forum months ago, so what is she making such a fuss about now?

Just the usual grandstanding with a typical self-serving "look at me" post expressing feigned concern over a nonexistent offense.

btw: No one has "made" us do anything. We've simply changed direction. There's no need at this time for the libel lounge parody site because from now on things are going to get serious. If anyone is looking for content, they can use this link: http://networkstalking.org/wordpress/ And yes, we have "disagreed" with your client's 4 years of stalking, harassment, and libel, with her sexual harassment, trolling, and PMing defamatory information to everyone she can, with her business interference, with her other methods of abuse, and most certainly, we "disagree" with her filing false police reports. We've also "disagreed" with various other predators who have made it their business to "disagree" with us in the same ways your client has.

The Kings Noyse

09-21-2006, 08:39 PM

Behold:
Posted by Lady Boardwalker 4/4/04 at 3:49 PM
LJ, he’s (Cartman’s) really secretive about his info, and he’s used false info to register his website.

Don’t use an [eBay] account to bid yourself. I had thought that maybe you could have someone else bid on an item of his, preferably someone who lives in a different state, and then have them pay for it with a postal money order only (if he accepts that). They should treat it like a normal transaction, and don’t ever tell ANYONE where you got the contact info, not even us. In other words, do NOT tell anyone the buyer’s ID. They would be violating eBay’s policy regarding giving out another user’s contact info.

Does anyone think I’m wrong to suggest this, seriously considering how far Cartman has gone with his harrassment of LJ? Does the end justify the means here?Can we cut the crap now?

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 08:53 PM

Brandon, my name, 1st & last, was posted on Ross by Diva, She also posted the state I live in on Ross.

Why did Ross allow such a thing, you liar, and filer of false police reports? Because he didn't. Why don't you ever get off your lazy-lying ass and provide ONE link to a quote?

You were properly served a cease and desist notice for years of libeling and harassing us, which you ignored. You then filed a series of FALSE police reports and you continued to ignore the C&D. We waited over SIX months, and said absolutely nothing while you continued to libel us, and recruit others to libel and hate us over at the Steel Dragon. The pages of the cease & desist notice when up AFTER we learned that you were even LYING through your teeth about the contents it contained.

I don't know how much you expected us to take of your crap before we took action. If you lose your job on account of this mess, please don't even begin to blame the victim, which is NOT you.

Bye bye, now. Stay away. Be gone. This is about Sandy, not you.

:2slampan:

biondobabe

09-21-2006, 08:54 PM

You 2 are the most delusional couple I have come across. I think once your before a judge (if it gets that far) he/she may request a 72 hour evaluation.

You shut your ebay business you say "by choice", so why don't you wander off in the sunset and leave the boards behinds that you say bothers you so much.

Here's a secret, I don't think anyone will miss you, give you a second thought, or even hope to get a Christmas card from you.

You are like Shawnsie and Nuke and Carl, et al. You don't get mentioned for a long time and you can't handle not being mentioned so you must surface to make your presence known. Bad attention is better than no attention. Quite sad that that is the only interaction you all have in your life.

I hope you really don't believe that you have clean hands in all of this that the 2 of you continue to bring up. I'm pretty sure I know the outcome... you really should cut your loses, get into a new business venture, cut the lines to your internet and enjoy one another.

Heartland

09-21-2006, 09:07 PM

That's it? That's all you have? Me advising someone who was going to file a police report on someone for harassment of her family?

SURELY, you can do better. After all, there are dozens of accusations for you to back up. Where's the proof of what you keep claiming I've done to YOU?

You're both a waste of time, not but hot air.

I think once your before a judge (if it gets that far) he/she may request a 72 hour evaluation. :1chirol_r

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 09:09 PM

Brandon...

I hope you plan on giving them a well earned page in the lists you're comprising.

Yes, that ought to be interesting....maybe you can get your email address to him, and you can start answering some of his questions, and perhaps help him out with his lists/reports.

Did you ever get those emails, with the headers, all straightened out? Nah, didn't think so.

:1apileoff

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 09:31 PM

That's it? That's all you have?

No, actually we have more, but you already knew it. We have thousands of examples.

Me advising someone who was going to file a police report on someone for harassment of her family?

Yes, a very important police report, about a board poster whom you didn't even know, who didn't even harass a family. But that didn't stop you and your ilk from lying through your teeth about it, huh Sandy. :(

By the way, how long have you been instructing others to file FALSE police reports, anyway? They're starting to add up.

In fact, did you know that a lot of those FALSE reports to LE (and to eBay), have been traced back to the Car Wash? Is that why you left the Car Wash, Sandy, didn't want to face the music. lol :1guitarpl

SURELY, you can do better.

You're tedious. Of course we can do better, and we will, and we are. People who know us in the REAL world, know this about us, too. And...we've got the green light, Sandy. :sm1115:

After all, there are dozens of accusations for you to back up.

Again, you're repeating yourself. You're not as smart as you pretended to be, you tricked people into believing that you were. The Emperor has no clothes, that's you, Sandy.

:1eek2:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 09:39 PM

You don't get mentioned for a long time and you can't handle not being mentioned so you must surface to make your presence known.
Lon, you're brainwashed. Want some advice, mind your own business. Javanoire has discussed us nearly every time she makes a post. Sandy chimes in at the Steel Dragon.

What's happening here is serious, even though you think it's a game.

It's not about only us, it's about gang-stalking. Networks of stalkers who gang together to engage in criminal activities to stalk and harass online businesses and individuals. Check google. Get some education. I am not here to entertain, or educate you.

Heartland

09-21-2006, 09:55 PM

Still waiting for that proof, but all I get is more lies and hot air. :1liar3:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 10:02 PM

Still waiting for that proof, but all I get is more lies and hot air.

A seach pulled up over 1000 libelous statement from EZ board archives.

Tell us more about the FALSE police report you instructed lady jane to file. Was that after Lady Jane was falsely accused of shill bidding, or before?

How many FALSE police reports did you work on, Sandy? Was it just the one for Lady Jane?

:1bonk1: :1kool1-ai

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 10:05 PM

Sandy has a way of completely forgetting what was posted on a prior page.....it's become a way of life for liar, libeler, advisor of filing false police reports, Sandy.....

No, actually we have more, but you already knew it. We have thousands of examples.

Yes, a very important police report, about a board poster whom you didn't even know, who didn't even harass a family. But that didn't stop you and your ilk from lying through your teeth about it, huh Sandy. :(

By the way, how long have you been instructing others to file FALSE police reports, anyway? They're starting to add up.

In fact, did you know that a lot of those FALSE reports to LE (and to eBay), have been traced back to the Car Wash? Is that why you left the Car Wash, Sandy, didn't want to face the music. lol :1guitarpl

You're tedious. Of course we can do better, and we will, and we are. People who know us in the REAL world, know this about us, too. And...we've got the green light, Sandy. :sm1115:

Again, you're repeating yourself. You're not as smart as you pretended to be, you tricked people into believing that you were. The Emperor has no clothes, that's you, Sandy.

:1eek2:

JavaNoire

09-21-2006, 11:28 PM

Shilling libel false police reports stalking harassment AI fraud conspiracy FReepers identity theft credit card fraud impersonation

(sighhh)They STILL fail to grasp that they succeed only in convincing people what malevolent loons they are! Hell, they're guilty of damned near EVERYTHING they oh*so*wildly accuse others of doing.

Stalking??? HaHaHa...THEY careened around the net gathering up what I posted elsewhere, only to endlessly C&P it here there everywhere. Using my eBay ID THEY delved & dug to discover my 1st name, then used that to acquire my last name. Going still further they dug up an address where I haven't lived in over a dozen yrs & used that to get a phone # which they used to deive & manipulate an underaged kid & a dying old lady. Flinging any semblance of decency aside, they concocted a damnable pack of lies which they mailed to my employer in the hopes that their dire(if vague) accusations & innuendo would cost me my job...To prove to one & all how depraved they are, they posted my CI/PI on their ridiculous web sites & flung links to the info EVERYWHERE.

IF they had any legitimate complaints they would pursue them lawfully through legitimate channels. But they don't. Their sole hope lies in bullying, intimidation, lies & coercion & they damned well know it.

They're now threatening to repeat their past transgressions. I'm sure it will be *doubly* impressive to those inundated with their LYING bilge(ie my employer).

And they have the demented nerve to accuse *me*(or Sandy!) of stalking & harassing them.

biondobabe

09-21-2006, 11:31 PM

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 11:40 PM

And they have the demented nerve to accuse *me*(or Sandy!) of stalking & harassing them.

It doesn't require nerve, we have the proof, and you both know it. Sandy's self-employed, a business competitor, and you're not. Big difference.

If your employer is concerned about employees who file FALSE police reports, and who libel others, and who solicit on the net for others to harass, and stalk others, then good for them.
:2slampan:

Cyber Diva

09-21-2006, 11:49 PM

Sandy, tell us more about how to file a FALSE police report?

Did Dirk file one too? He was also falsely accused of shill bidding with Lady Jane, did you advise them both to file police reports against members from another boards who you believed had been responsible for filing these FALSE allegations against your business associates?

Did you write Kelley from eBay and ask her to help you?

:2slampan:

Steamcleaner

09-22-2006, 01:23 AM

biondobabe

09-22-2006, 07:50 AM

The Kings Noyse

09-22-2006, 09:47 AM

IF they had any legitimate complaints they would pursue them lawfully through legitimate channels. But they don't. Their sole hope lies in bullying, intimidation, lies & coercion & they damned well know it.

I was thinking that same thing Java. Why come here and flood this board with C&P's of posts from up to 3 years ago? If they had anything, they would surely do something with it. Why waste all that great evidence here?Yes, but you see, we have, we are, we do, and we will.

As for this, just consider that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and even though that statement is more than 200 years old, it remains as true and as relevant today as ever.

Beyond a certain age, people change very little, even in the span of decades, what to say of a mere 2-3 years. What these recent posts from 2003 forward reveal concerning the plotting, scheming, libel, harassment, and abuse by certain individuals still present is a pattern of misconduct which only a fool that prefers to live life without aid of memory would choose to ignore.

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 09:55 AM

Sandy, what ever happened to this post, you never commented on the fact that you published your name, Martin?

Not that it matters to anyone, Sandy, and I bet you didn't mean to LIE :1kool1-ai however....your last name Martin, was published by you on this board, in the following discussion, about the closure of TCWL, by Devala.com in November of 2005:

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85946&postcount=81

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85947&postcount=82

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85949&postcount=84

:2slampan:

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85951&postcount=85

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http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85868&postcount=68

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http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=85944&postcount=79

Also, you posted yesterday that you'd advised Lady Jane (and Dirk?) to file a police report on Cartman because you claimed Cartman harassed Lady Jane's family. What the hell? What really happened, and you know it, was your crew discussed in the private fora of EZ board Car Wash, that you believed Lady Jane and Dirk were falsely reported for shill bidding on eBay

and so, you were going to frame Cartman for it, remember now? There was no harassment of a family. You and your ilk always pretend that your families were harassed, and then you instruct one another to go into the police and file false reports.

Did Dirk file a report too? Was his family harassed? Did Dirk ever come clean on what he had done to harass base and bliss? Or was Polonsky naming the wrong suspect when he said it was Dirk, and not Jon, who had done all of those evil things?

Do tell.

:1chirol_c

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 10:05 AM

Since it was on another page, and Sandy seems to forget what was posted on a prior day, or page...here is the comment wherein Sandy instructed another board poster to file a FALSE police report regarding board matters which had absolutely nothing to do with harassing a family, LIAR libeler, Sandy. It was about a false allegation filed against Lady Jane and Dirk for shill bidding their auctions on eBay: :sm1132:

http://www.therossshow.com/showpost.php?p=116551&postcount=98

That's it? That's all you have? Me advising someone who was going to file a police report on someone for harassment of her family?

SURELY, you can do better. After all, there are dozens of accusations for you to back up. Where's the proof of what you keep claiming I've done to YOU?

You're both a waste of time, not but hot air.

:1chirol_r

Heartland

09-22-2006, 10:24 AM

Dumbass Diva, the harassment had nothing to do with the false shilling allegation, which was made by someone completely different on a different website.

Keep fishing. Your bait is stale, though. Moldy, in fact. :1chirol_r

Heartland

09-22-2006, 11:27 AM

LOL, I just saw this, since I tend to skim Crazy Diva's repetitive regurgitations.

Sandy's self-employed, a business competitor, and you're not.

I am? Do you sell general antiques, too? Funny, I haven't seen any (not authentic ones, anyway) on pricegems. com :rolleyes:

The Divas: Stalkers, harassers, posters of contact info, creators of stalking website.

confusers

09-22-2006, 12:08 PM

Since I don't have any "stalking website," either you are mistaken, or this is just another example of you lying to this community.

However, I do maintain with others an anti-stalking web site at http://networkstalking.org, and if you have any objection to any of the content that appears on that site then you are free to contact the webmaster and voice your concerns.

Stop playing the semantics game, Aaron. It's a stalking website. Not an anti-stalking. And what gives you the right to own an "anti" anything when you yourself continue to post people's names, address, phone #s, personal conversations, etc. You libel people everyday by your very actions against innocent people. Have you ever stopped to consider the consequences of your actions, bozo? :2slampan:

The Kings Noyse

09-22-2006, 01:42 PM

That's it? That's all you have? Me advising someone who was going to file a police report on someone for harassment of her family?

SURELY, you can do better...Of course I can do better, as you shall see. For now, we'll focus our attention on some appetizers before moving on to the main courses, saving dessert, of course, for last. I believe the conduct revealed in the following material serves as an excellent case study concerning cyber predators and the techniques they use to harass their victims.

What we have here is Heartland, aka Lady Boardwalker, instructing Lady Jane in the mysteries of circumventing eBay security and privacy policies in order to obtain the contact information of another member, Cartman, pursuant to an improper purpose. But she goes much further than this by advising her intern to make "a buy" using "a money order" through a surrogate, someone "from another state" in order to avoid detection, and thus to insulate herself from the consequences of this bad act she's advising her to commit. Indeed, Sandy is very adept both at getting the dirty jobs done AND at covering her tracks, and that is why she is such an indispensible and respected member of the eBay vigilante community, it would seem.

Of course, she puts on a very different face to eBay. Yes, when communicating with eBay personnel she presents herself as uncommonly innocent and sincere, someone so meek, so humble, and so honest that the mere thought of posting violations makes her physically ill:

"Kelley, we need your help. On Saturday, two threads were started by the poster artrenditions.com. The first of these threads quickly turned into a trolling and bashing fest against chops*buster and it got quite long. Legal-eaglet made several spurious allegations (again) of pornography and child pornography. Artrenditions.com posted a link to http://www.chopsbuster.com, a site that is NOT owned by Chops, but is a stalking site owned by Basestealer...Chops*buster was accused of posting with many ID's on that thread, when in fact the ID's belonged to many regular posters on T&S. Actually, there were so many false allegations made against Chops, that it made my head spin. I know for a fact that every one of them were blatant falsehoods. Another ID, your*hero, also participated in this bash fest. The posts on that thread actually made me sick to my stomach. I know many people, including myself, were hitting the report button like crazy, but it took hours and hours before the thread was finally pulled...I have not appointed myself as Chops' protector, not by any means, but these threads were so far over the top that I feel I have to speak up. The disgusting, blatant lies about some of the regular posters on T&S (not just about Chops) were just too much. I hope you can take care of the current thread, and possibly do something to prevent further outbreaks like this when you are away. It appears to me that all three of the ID's I've mentioned in this e-mail are on T&S for one purpose, and one purpose only, and that is to troll and to cause a board war...Sandy"Of course, she never seems to get sick to her stomach from any of the truly sickening things she's posted on off-eBay forums, like TRS and TCW, that are 1000 times worse. And in the secret forums at TCW, we find a very different Sandy indeed, one that thinks nothing of advising and conspiring with others to commit far more serious violations, even instructing them how to avoid detection when violating eBay policies:

[LadyJane], [Cartman’s] really secretive about his info, and he’s used false info to register his website.

Don’t use an [eBay] account to bid yourself. I had thought that maybe you could have someone else bid on an item of his, preferably someone who lives in a different state, and then have them pay for it with a postal money order only (if he accepts that). They should treat it like a normal transaction, and don’t ever tell ANYONE where you got the contact info, not even us. In other words, do NOT tell anyone the buyer’s ID. They would be violating eBay’s policy regarding giving out another user’s contact info. Does anyone think I’m wrong to suggest this, seriously considering how far Cartman has gone with his harrassment of LJ? Does the end justify the means here? (emphasis added)Here, Boardwalker tells her client that involving the Police is "definitely worth a shot" because "there's nothing to lose" except perhaps "a little time." Seems like a worthwhile investment for an opportunity to ruin your victim's life.

"I think the noose image is a clear threat too, LJ, as well as posting your name and the link to the picture of your family, which also had your last name. I think the police are definitely worth a shot. You have nothing to lose by going to them, except a little time.

They may not file charges against him this time, but in many cases they WILL pay a visit to his home and tell him in no uncertain terms that if he continues the harrassment, they won't hesitate to haul his ass in because you ARE willing to file charges. That's what they did to Base when he harrassed GB, and it's what they did to a guy several years ago who was harrassing me with phone calls.

If you do use another ID "out there," you'll need to try to disguise your writing. A couple of hard returns after each sentence or two will work wonders, as well as using a lot of emoticons in your sentences, both at the end and in the middle. You can even use a different typeface and color, like Anam Cara does! *wink*"But there's more...

Here Boardwalker coaches the witness and tells her how to lie to the Police to obtain the desired result:

[LadyJane] one more thing ... you need to impress upon the police that you FEAR for the safety of yourself and your family. Don't just tell them you're pissed or tired of it, let them know you are afraid of Cartman and the other crazies that he pals around with. Give them the link to RJ so they can read for themselves what goes on there.

Leave no stone unturned ... give them every bit of information you have on Cartman, his website, RJ, and it probably wouldn't hurt to give them a link to The Divide, as well, since I'm sure a lot of Cartman's plotting takes place on that board. I think Prickles and Cartman run that board.So Sandy is johnny on the spot with the full details on how to invade an eBay member's privacy to obtain his confidential contact information under false pretenses, without risking detection, when the serious task for her group is to facilitate the filing of a bogus Police report, and she even provides details concerning just how to lie to the Police so that the unlawful act will produce the greatest negative effect on the target; but when someone outside her coven is experiencing a similar situation, unsympathetic Sandy has either nothing to say or only advice to offer:

I found this quote of Irish/Boardsearcher/Illuminati*One on another thread here in the Crank Shaft:Where would you like me to start? How about with harrassment, including but not limited to calling my place of employment to complain about what I do on my lunch break? Lets not even get into Dirk and LBW's actions.... because I'm sure they, along with Laurie and Erin, could come up with a multitude of "reasons" why it's OK to treat me like shit.Irish, I don't know what the hell you're talking about. What are my "actions?" I haven't spoken to you in a VERY long time. I have not replied to any of your e-mails in the past several months, including one filled with insane rantings, accusing Dirk and I of posting your contact info. GET THIS, Irish: No one CARES about your freaking contact info! I don't have it, I don't want it, and I've NEVER seen it posted anywhere. If you were told otherwise, you were lied to. I don't know why that should surprise you, since you belong to a board run by the most notorious liar I've ever had the displeasure of knowing. That liar also told you to get cancer and die, as well as accused you of things YOU didn't do, yet you still fall for the lies and even start to create your own.

You KNOW who the true harrassers are, and you play right into their hands. THIS is why I will not communicate with you via e-mail anymore. Leave me OUT of your pathetic, insecure games, will you? I've done absolutely NOTHING to you. Stating an opinion about your behavior is NOT harrassment. Refusing to answer e-mail is NOT harrassment.

You and everyone else on Rumjungle knows that I never mentioned ONE word about that board or about any of you -- UNTIL they started bashing me on that board. I never mentioned Wasa or Mouthy or anyone in a bad light until I saw those posts. Then I stood up and gave my OWN opinion about what was going on there. Didn't like that? TOO BAD! They started it. People get the same treatment that they give.

If you're so worried about harrassment, you should take your real name off of your e-mails -- figure it out! If you have experienced TRUE harrassment, then call the police, and stop making unfounded accusations. It sounds to me as if the harrassment is only in your mind, and you are somehow deluding yourself into thinking that because people don't want to have anything to do with you, they are harrassing you. It's NOT the same thing, so get over it, and leave me OUT of it. Now that many Rumjungle members are back on T&S, worming their way into a chat thread where no one knows the truth about them, maybe they can cause enough trouble there to finally leave us alone. I won't hold my breath, though. Some people just thrive on this shit; others allow themselves to be led by the nose right into it. If you think that I'm going to "chat" with you in the basement, well, that's just plain funny. So I guess you can go back upstairs and whine about myself and others not treating you in the manner to which you are accustomed. I'm not a fake or a phony, and I won't play your games.
Nor did Sandy have anything to say about the ritualistic killing of Diva on TFI recently, where not only did there appear a noose and knives being thrust into her by various boardsters, we have Stephanie puzzlegoddess personally tightening the noose and choking the last breath of life from her. But the mere image of a noose should strike such FEAR in Sandy's camp that Cartman must be identified, apprehended, and locked up. Now that certainly is one of the most fabulous of double standards of all time, and what is emerging here is a clear pattern of hypocrisy and abuse of process, of Sandy minimizing her own abuse and that of her friends, the worst of which appears to be done in secrecy, and then magnifying to infinity the the responses from her crew's victims to the point of filing harassing, false police reports. How many times has this been done by Sandy and her crew? And to how many victims?

boardbimbo

09-22-2006, 01:45 PM

Well, you could always contact his uplink provider. Sooner or later someone responds.

The Kings Noyse

09-22-2006, 02:29 PM

So Sandy is johnny on the spot with the full details on how to invade an eBay member's privacy to obtain his confidential contact information under false pretenses, without risking detection, when the serious task for her group is to facilitate the filing of a bogus Police report, and she even provides details concerning just how to lie to the Police so that the unlawful act will produce the greatest negative effect on the target; but when someone outside her coven is experiencing a similar situation, unsympathetic Sandy has either nothing to say or only bad advice to offer:

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 02:52 PM

repetitive regurgitations.
That would describe you and your ilk, perfectly. Over the years, you've used the same libel to describe countless victims. Did you archive it all, so that it would be easy for you to use, the next time it was needed? lol

I am? Do you sell general antiques, too?
Yes.

Funny, I haven't seen any (not authentic ones, anyway) on pricegems.com

How often have you visited our web site? We do have antiques, authentic ones. What would make you think there were no "authentic" antiques left, after you bought yours? :1kool1-ai

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 03:12 PM

Stop playing the semantics game, Aaron. It's a stalking website. Not an anti-stalking. And what gives you the right to own an "anti" anything....

No one is playing "semantics" FOD, and you often, like Sandy, use words to describe the actions of others, incorrectly.

You are posting anonymously here, because you share your account with Car Wash Mary, so you think because it's a "shared" account, that you can honest post, you're not FOD, when Mary uses the account :rolleyes: ...just as you did the "grandslam" account you used on the previous Ross Show. (Remember, you talked about it in private? lol).

As you know, it is against the law to stalk, libel and harass people on the internet, FOD, especially if you do so, anonymously, that's not my fault. We are only documenting, and providing the "proof" for those who are interest in the Case Study of what is is you've been doing for years, on the net. You started out as eBay trash, according to the labeling Steven DeMello attributed to your Car Wash bad behavior. That's not my fault either.

Anyway, whatever works for you, FOD, have at it. Enjoy!

However, it would be nice if you took the time to learn the meaning of some of the words you chose to use which really should be used to describe your own online character, such as years of anonymously harassing, and gang-stalking innocent victims. Here a Cut & Paste lesson for you FOD-Mary:

Top Web Results for "anonymous"

3 results for: anonymous
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
a?non?y?mous? [uh-non-uh-muhs] Pronunciation Key
–adjective
1. without any name acknowledged, as that of author, contributor, or the like: an anonymous letter to the editor; an anonymous donation.
2. of unknown name; whose name is withheld: an anonymous author.
3. lacking individuality, unique character, or distinction: an endless row of drab, anonymous houses.

semantics:

. Linguistics.
a. the study of meaning.
b. the study of linguistic development by classifying and examining changes in meaning and form.
2. Also called significs. the branch of semiotics dealing with the relations between signs and what they denote.
3. the meaning, or an interpretation of the meaning, of a word, sign, sentence, etc.: Let's not argue about semantics.

3 results for: stalking
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stalk2 (st?k) Pronunciation Key
v. stalked, stalk·ing, stalks
v. intr.
To walk with a stiff, haughty, or angry gait: stalked off in a huff.
To move threateningly or menacingly.
To track prey or quarry.

v. tr.
To pursue by tracking stealthily.
To follow or observe (a person) persistently, especially out of obsession or derangement.
To go through (an area) in pursuit of prey or quarry.

[Middle English stalken, from Old English -stealcian, to move stealthily (in bestealcian).]
stalker n.

To find out more:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gang-stalking

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 03:19 PM

Correction: two typos and the Queen of Word Processors, Sandy is keeping track!!

honest=honestly

interest=interested

The Kings Noyse

09-22-2006, 03:21 PM

Stop playing the semantics game, Aaron. It's a stalking website. Not an anti-stalking. And what gives you the right to own an "anti" anything when you yourself continue to post people's names, address, phone #s, personal conversations, etc. You libel people everyday by your very actions against innocent people. Have you ever stopped to consider the consequences of your actions, bozo?
You could use some serious dictionary time and a few lessons in semantics also, because clearly you don't understand the meanings of the terms you use.

If simply documenting and publishing the names, the already published words, and the documented acts of online predators contsituted "stalking" then by your logic, every state that publishes such information concerning sex offenders would be guilty of stalking, which is absurd.

If you and your perverse friends learned to behave yourselves online then you wouldn't have to worry about the details of your nasty misdeeds getting out and eventually being published on sites such as networkstalking.org, which exist as beacons of light to warn others about people like you. Become a better person and a better citizen, and then you won't have to scream when the slanders and the intrigue you've perpetrated in secrecy are brought out into the light of day. If you continue to do otherwise, then the responsibility is yours, and yours alone, so don't even think about blaming me.

Heartland

09-22-2006, 04:02 PM

*yaaaaawwwwwwn*

Still waiting for proof that I've DONE anything to you. Where is it? You keep promising, and not delivering.

JavaNoire

09-22-2006, 04:41 PM

"If simply documenting and publishing the names, the already published words, and the documented acts of online predators contsituted "stalking" then by your logic, every state that publishes such information concerning sex offenders would be guilty of stalking, which is absurd."

The Divas have no legitimate business publishing my name here(on Ross) or on their libelous stalking sites. They've never bothered filing criminal charges against me for any of the crimes they've blithely accused me of b/c they know they're LYING & that there isn't a scant ounce of truth to any of the shit they promiscuously fling about.

To compare theDiva's stalking sites with those which provide info on convicted sex offenders is as creepily disingenuous as it gets. The (blatant)differences between those innocents theDivas relentlessly hound & convicted sex offenders is too screamingly obvious to argue.

Again, they make it plain what they are, & what they'll do, in their mad pusuit of pointless (if insane) vendettas against all that have hurt their delicate (if toxic) sensibilities.

In their own interests, I hope they have learned to keep their noxious lies & slander confined to these boards. Their harassment here is boooring perhaps, but easily ignored when it becomes too tedious. Unwelcome, unwarranted intrusions into the lives of others via harassing phone calls & BOGUS C&Ds is intolerable.

The Kings Noyse

09-22-2006, 06:05 PM

Still waiting for that proof, but all I get is more lies and hot air. :1liar3:
And Sandy Boardwalker, aka Underbody Ursula, also has called people "liars," has accued others of "lying," and has referred to their statements as "lies" a total of 3,480 different times at TCW1, and this does not include SD, TRS, eBay, or any other forums she has graced with her presence. If these other fora were added the total no doubt would exceed 10,000.

So a reasonable estimate is that Sandy has accused others on the Internet of lying 10,000 times and of being crazy 10,000 times, and that doesn't include the thousands of other prepackaged insults she unfurls like confetti every day at everyone. http://networkstalking.org/img/econs/crazy2.gif That sounds awfully crazy.

RunFaYaLife

09-22-2006, 09:31 PM

I was thinking that same thing Java. Why come here and flood this board with C&P's of posts from up to 3 years ago? If they had anything, they would surely do something with it. Why waste all that great evidence here?

I saw one from 5 years ago....somewhere around here. I mean REALLY.

Diva's do you realize that no one bother's to read your old boring copy and pastes?

You are like and old joke.....the first or second time you hear it it might be funny or amusing......but when it gets to to millionth time ( with you two).

NO ONE CARES.

RunFaYaLife

09-22-2006, 09:32 PM

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 10:13 PM

Diva's do you realize that no one bother's to read your old boring copy and pastes?

That's funny coming from you, rikki. You're the QUEEN of goofy copy and pastes that make absolutely no sense. Get real, lady.

:1kiss1: :1JerryJer

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 10:16 PM

I saw one from 5 years ago....somewhere around here. I mean REALLY.
Really, you're lame, or your eyes are playing tricks on you. Could you possibly have seen the one from FIVE years ago at the Steel Dragon where you've been doing a lot of those library of doom, cut and paste show? lol

:irollers4

Cyber Diva

09-22-2006, 10:18 PM

:1liar3: :1liar3: :1liar3:

:stfu: