Neil Entwistle

[agogoboots]

Was looking for a thread since this is in the news. What's this all about?

[nanastuff]

Are you talking about The Who? If so, then yes.....he died.

[Toy Ranch]

http://members.aol.com/toyranch/entwhistle.jpg

http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2002/07/01/entwhistle-dies.html

Monday 1st July 2002

John Entwhistle dies
Who?
by Kieren McCarthy
Thousands gathered today once they had found out that John Entwhistle, who died from a heart attack in Las Vegas on Thursday, was the former bassist of British rock group, The Who.

Known as The Ox, Entwhistle was the least interesting of the group and only the second of the original line-up to die tragically. But while DJs frantically tried to find a Who song with a clear bass line, the ultimate tribute came from his bandmates.

Roger Daltrey — who inflicted Chesney Hawkes on the world and maintains a ridiculous bubble perm haircut — said he was "devastated", as did cliff-nosed Pete Townshend, whose arm is pivoted about his shoulder.

Both vowed to go ahead with their US tour however, saying it's what Ron would have wanted — he was cash-strapped too. Incredibly, the death is not thought to be drug-related and the coroner has recorded a verdict of "clapped out".

The unexpected loss comes 25 years after The Who's lunatic drummer Keith Moon died from an overdose. Both deaths will feature in the booklet in a new Who compilation album that consists of the good songs they made about 30 years ago.

[agogoboots]

I'm talking about this ebay seller and his dead wife and baby.

http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,262158,00.jpg

The news articles are very sketchy.

[Toy Ranch]

He sold them on eBay???

[agogoboots]

NEIL Entwhistle. Sorry. Didn't know there was another Entwhistle.

[nanastuff]

Oh good grief!

[rossshow]

No, Toy.

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=SNYC%2CSNYC%3A2004-13%2CSNYC%3Aen&tab=wn&q=Entwistle+neil&btnG=Search+News

I don't think we've discussed this, yet, Terri. Thanks for brining it up.

[Toy Ranch]

OK...

http://www.turnto10.com/news/6490085/detail.html

Husband Might Not Return For Funerals Of Wife, Daughter

POSTED: 6:23 am EST January 27, 2006
UPDATED: 7:38 am EST January 27, 2006

BOSTON -- The husband of a murdered wife and daughter said he might stay in England and skip their funerals.

The bodies of Rachel Entwistle and her 9-month-old daughter Lillian were found in a bed in their home Sunday night. Bullets from a small-caliber gun killed both.

British investigators said Neil Entwistle is not a suspect in the dual killings. Entwistle is from England and is considered a "person of interest" by Massachusetts officials.

Middlesex County District Attorney Martha Coakley said whoever left the Entwhistle house locked the door, which forced police to have to pry it open on Sunday.

That's when they found Rachel and Lillian Entwistle dead and wrapped in a blanket on a bed.

Entwistle Registered Company With eBay

Officials at online auctioneer eBay are cooperating with law enforcement authorities investigating the fatal shooting.

An eBay spokesman told The Boston Globe that Entwistle had registered a business with eBay in April 2003. Customer feedback to the company, which sells software, had been overwhelmingly positive until the start of the New Year when it turned sour.

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He's going to skip the funeral? OK... so is there a more public way to plead guilty than that???

[rossshow]

Didn't know there was another Entwhistle.

LOL! Yes. A rock and roll legend.

[agogoboots]

All I gather is that he was an unemployed computer tech selling on ebay and renting a $300,000 house. He supposedly flew to England on Friday and on Saturday night his wife and baby were found dead shot to death in their bed. But then there's some murky connection to other internet enterprises.

[rossshow]

Slain baby’s dad tied to scam: He reportedly ripped off buyers using eBay auction site





By SUE REINERT
The Patriot Ledger

The British-born husband of a Carver woman slain with their daughter is reportedly linked to a Web site that scammed buyers on the auction site eBay and promoted a questionable get-rich scheme.

Neil Entwistle sold software on the online auction site under the name srpublications.

Since early January, buyers have complained that they did not receive items they bought. EBay says the seller is no longer a registered user.

The Web site, www.srpublications.co.uk, could not be accessed today.

Entwistle’s wife of 21/2 years, Rachel Entwistle, and their baby daughter Lillian were shot to death between Thursday night and Sunday at their rented home in Hopkinton.

Investigators from the Middlesex County district attorney’s office have spoken with Neil Entwistle about the murders, but have not identified him as a suspect.

Neil Entwistle has been described as an unemployed computer technician, but reports have begun to surface about his involvement in several Internet-based businesses.

He and his wife offered services on eBay selling Internet advertising. Published reports said 16 complaints had been filed with eBay.

In addition to srpublications, Entwistle registered another Web site for a company called Embedded New Technologies and listed a Carver address for contacts, Internet listings show.

The address was the home of his wife Rachel’s mother and stepfather, where the couple lived until moving to Hopkinton 11 days ago.

The Web site for the company says it develops specialized software and hardware, but much of the site, including product information, is incomplete, the Web site says.

A third site linked to Entwistle, www.millionmaker.co.uk, could not be found today.

An Internet watchdog site called Scambuster called Millionmaker's get-rich-quick promotion a scam in 2004. At that time Neil Entwistle was listed as the registrant of the site at an address in Worcester, Great Britain.

[rossshow]

Briton speaks to U.S. police over double murder
Husband in U.K. after American wife, daughter found slain near Boston

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 9:39 a.m. ET Jan. 27, 2006

LONDON - Neil Entwistle, a Briton whose American wife and baby were found shot dead at their home in suburban Boston home, went voluntarily to the U.S. Embassy in London on Friday to talk to officials about their deaths, British police said.

“Mr. Entwistle was driven to the U.S. Embassy by police officers, but he is not under arrest and is not being treated as a suspect in the murder of his wife and baby,” a Nottinghamshire police spokeswoman said.

She said he was regarded as a potential witness to the double murder.

The killings drew intense media interest both in Massachusetts, where the family lived, and Britain. There has also been much media speculation about what events could have led to the murders.

“He is clearly a person of interest, as any husband in a case like this would be,” Middlesex District Attorney Martha Coakley said.

Ticket bought before deaths
Entwistle’s car was found at Logan International Airport near Boston and flight records show he bought a plane ticket to London 48 hours before the bodies of his wife, Rachel, and 9-month-old daughter, Lillian, were discovered on Sunday.

Autopsy results showed both the mother and daughter had been shot to death with a small-caliber gun. The bodies were found under layers of blankets in a bed in their home in Hopkinton, about 30 miles west of Boston.

The autopsy and a phone call Rachel Entwistle made to relatives on Thursday placed the time of their deaths between late Thursday and Saturday.

The couple met while Rachel was studying abroad in England, and they had been married for three years. Neil Entwistle was looking for a job in the technology field; his wife was an unemployed teacher.

Entwistle and his family had lived in the United States for about 4 or 5 months and began renting their home on Jan. 12.

Relatives told investigators that the couple did not have a history of marital problems.

An Entwistle family Web page that once focused just on the couple and their baby — www.rachelandneil.org (http://www.rachelandneil.org/) — has been transformed with its guestbook now a page of mourning.

[rossshow]

Ebay closed the account,

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=srpublications

[rossshow]

Police investigate 'husband's links to internet porn'

By Adam Fresco
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/images/trans.gifGraphic: The Entwistles' internet web (http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,262757,00.jpg)



AMERICAN detectives hoping to question Neil Entwistle in person about the murder of his wife and daughter in Massachusetts have also begun inquiries into the Briton’s possible involvement in the murky world of internet pornography.

NI_MPU('middle');Officers have until now been only in telephone contact with Mr Entwistle, who has been staying with relatives in Nottinghamshire after leaving the US at around the time his wife, Rachel, and nine-month-old baby, Lillian, were killed.

State troopers yesterday took boxes from the family’s house in Massachusetts. It is believed that they are looking at computers owned by Mr Entwistle.

One of the sites being investigated, millionmaker.co.uk, was shut down three days after the murders. The company promised assistance to those with an adult internet business for a £50 joining fee and and £14 monthly fee. The site also included links to three other websites, including one said to be associated with SRPublications — the same name used on an alleged eBay scam selling the get-rich-quick software.

Police are investigating how Mr Entwistle was able to rent a five-bedroom home worth £300,000 when he was unemployed and looking for work.

Complaints about the eBay sales have been listed on the internet, including one from a woman called Anne who said she agreed there was a link to eBay scams “as the user SRpublications”. She wrote: “SRPublications activity stepped up massively over the holidays and a really large scam has been organised that has earnt SRPublications thousands of pounds in a couple of weeks. It was a very well run and well timed scam, using the holidays to buy extra time, and I think was planned in advance.

“Some of the software was being sold under the name Neil Entwistle, some under the name Rachel — whether that means both were involved or whether only one, I don’t know,” she continued.

The site was apparently closed by eBay within weeks.

Another site, Embedded New Technologies, had the registration listed on Tuesday to Neil Entwistle in Droitwich, the same registration address as the family’s personal website. The registration for the sites is reported to have changed to an address in Tremont Street, Carver. Rachel Entwistle’s parents live in a street of that name in Carver, Massachusetts.

Martha Coakley, the district attorney, said that state police and local detectives were looking into Mr and Mrs Entwistle’s finances as well as personal lives.

Officers have been in telephone contact with Mr Entwistle, 27, whom they describe as a “person of interest”, but have not yet seen him face to face. It may be that Mr Entwistle decides to go back to the US with the officers voluntarily. They have not asked for any international arrest warrants to be issued or for help from police in Nottinghamshire.

A state trooper told The Times that Mr Entwistle “is above all the other suspects because he is the spouse and father of the deceased. There is no one we are seeking to talk to more than him. “When police went to the house it was dark and locked up so whoever did it locked the house after them.”

Ms Coakley insisted that Mr Entiwistle was still only “a person of interest” in the case. She said earlier that the “best guess” was that Mrs Entwistle, 27, and Lillian died between 1am on Friday and early Saturday. Mr Entwistle is believed to have caught a flight to London from Logan on Friday evening.

But she added: “It’s still kind of a blurry timeline, whether he was still in the country or not when the shooting occurred.” British authorities have not been asked to help the murder inquiry, as the Americans are confident they can contact Mr Entwistle as necessary. The bodies of Rachel and Lillian were discovered on Sunday evening after friends arrived for a dinner party on Saturday night at the snow-covered home and found it in darkness. They called police, who broke in and found Mrs Entwistle and her daughter shot dead and wrapped in blankets on the master bed.

[Toy Ranch]

A third site linked to Entwistle, www.millionmaker.co.uk, could not be found today.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://millionmaker.co.uk

[rossshow]

http://huffcrimeblog.com/?p=450



We might as well face it — the British love mysteries, and some of the greatest mystery authors have been from the United Kingdom. The American Edgar Allan Poe may have invented the detective story when he created C. Auguste Dupin, but Conan Doyle perfected the genre with Sherlock Holmes. Besides, Poe seemed to want to be British, anyway. A study of his writing style compared with British contemporaries shows that Poe, like the American dark fantasist H.P. Lovecraft after him, was exceedingly fond of the way our ‘cousins’ across the pond wielded our mother tongue when forging a story.

Agatha Christie, with her Poirot and Ms. Marple, only extended the dominance of British authors over this type of fiction. Americans have only been able to compete in the true crime genre, because we simply have a lot of true crime here. American authors also perfected a different kind of detective fiction, a more rough-edged, less intellectual brand of mystery characterized by hard-drinking private eyes, mysterious dames in distress, and low-down and dirty types in general double-crossing other low-down and dirty folks. Maybe I’m trying to compare treacle tarts and hot fudge sundaes, I don’t know. For that matter, I’d rather read what a Brit has to say about Jack the Ripper any day as the tangential musings of an American author.

My point is this, though — it becomes clearer to me daily now why the ongoing story of the murder of Rachel and Lillian Entwistle in Hopkinton, MA on or about January 22, 2006 is working its way into the consciousness of average folks on both sides of the Atlantic. On the one hand, the murder of a wife and infant child in a nicely-appointed suburban Boston area house is somehow peculiarly American. Many of us who follow true crime see the nice-looking Neil Entwistle, age 27, Rachel’s husband and Lillian’s father, and we think of other newly-widowed men from our recent history: the nice-looking and affable Scott Peterson, now on death row in California for the murder of his wife Laci and their unborn child, Conner; the hulking Mark Hacking, who in spite of his shaven head and size at first seemed like a sympathetic, bereft big bear of a man, until his story about the disappearance of his wife Lori just started to fall apart. These stories now seem peculiarly American, even to the British. A comment I read on a message board discussion between British expatriates about the Entwistle case seemed to run towards, ‘well, there goes our stereotype of the Americans as the gun-toting psychos.’

Yet the British citizen Entwistle returning mysteriously to the U.K. around the same time his wife and child were murdered, and the continually unfolding story of his possibly-shady online dealings contain elements of complexity worthy of the more cerebral British mystery fiction from the past.

I know figuring some of it out makes my head hurt, and I’ve got help.

About that — it seems unfair that I’m going on TV sometimes to talk about these things when it is often readers of my blog who make interesting finds and then float them my way. I have made discoveries by myself, have broken news based on my own research — but figuring out just what the hell Neil Entwistle or someone using his name may have been doing on the internet for the last 5 years or so has ended up being quite the group effort. This time, the credit goes to a poster I know only by the screen name “ehmadpotter.”

In the comments section of my most recent entry about the Entwistle case (http://huffcrimeblog.com/?p=449#comments), ehmadpotter points us to another eBay profile (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cream-Leather-Eames-Chair-and-Ottoman_W0QQitemZ6600357037QQcategoryZ63568QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

It really has to be emphasized here that in the region where Neil Entwistle’s family lives north of London, Entwistle is a fairly common name. Therefore, it is only fair to say that there has to be more than one Neil Entwistle. I’ve determined that a different Neil Entwistle attended a Christian University here in the U.S. and may now be doing missionary work. There is a Neil Entwistle who apparently teaches college in the U.K. I know, then, that some of the following has to be viewed with some skepticism.

The eBay profile will take you to a listing for a user named “wellcom.it.” This user has been with eBay since 2001, and their feedback record overall is good. Beginning January 26, 2006, they had on auction a cream leather Eames Chair and Ottoman. They are asking £845.00 ($1595 or so U.S.) for the chair. The auction beginning the 26th is the first one wellcom.it has put on eBay since December, when they sold a black leather Eames chair for £695.00 (about $1240.00 U.S.).



I reproduce now research ehmadpotter already did, as you will see in the comment they left:

The Whois info for wellcom-it.co.uk. (http://www.whois.sc/wellcom-it.co.uk) A cut and paste from that data, emphasis added:
Domain name:
wellcom-it.co.uk

Registrant:
Neil Entwistle

Registrant type:
Not supplied

Administrative contact’s address:
24 collington way
west bridgeford
nottingham
Nottingham
notts
NG2 7LR
england


Here is an Internet Wayback Machine link to Wellcom-It.co.uk (http://web.archive.org/web/20011218194907/wellcom-it.co.uk/acatalog/frameset.htm). It appears that when it started, wellcom-it was an online computer store. It is a rather odd change, moving from computer sales to high-end Italian furniture. I simply don’t know what to make of it.
Connected directly (http://web.archive.org/web/20011218194907/wellcom-it.co.uk/acatalog/frameset.htm) to the computer-store version of wellcom-it was funkyphonecompany.co.uk (http://web.archive.org/web/20011129021405/www.funkyphonecompany.co.uk/). As a reminder, some registration info for that domain:
Whois info link. (http://www.whois.sc/funkyphonecompany.co.uk)
A cut & paste of some of the info —

funkyphonecompany.co.uk

Registrant:
K N Entwistle

Registrant type:
Not supplied

Administrative contact’s address:
1 Seatoller Close
west bridgeford
Nottingham
UK


Now, a note about the addresses used above. If anyone in England is reading this and knows of a source where I can find the 1 Seatoller Close address or 24 Collington Way, please let me know via my contact form (http://huffcrimeblog.com/?page_id=427). In a cursory Google search, only two sources for the “1 Seatoller Close” address come up — an earlier entry in this weblog, and the whois info found at www.whois.sc. “Seatoller Close” alone will bring up a variety of addresses — but none of them appear to be in West Bridgeford, in Nottingham. Search engines are not infallible, I know — I may be hampered by not understanding differences between naming conventions for physical addresses in the United Kingdom and here.

I know little about Entwistle’s family at the moment, save that his father is a coal miner and local politician. Does he have brothers? Could the “K.N.” be a brother or relative, and could Neil Entwistle have assisted this person solely with setting up websites?

Or is it Neil himself? And were the high-dollar furniture sales made on eBay perhaps where the Entwistle’s real money was coming from, at least for a time?

If the same Neil Entwistle Massachusetts Police say is of interest to them in connection with the murders of Rachel and Lillian set up all these endeavors — how is it he could set up an auction on eBay 4 days after his wife and child were found murdered?

I tend to agree with those leaving comments that indicate they can’t buy the murder of Lillian Entwistle in particular as a revenge killing by a disgruntled customer of one of Entwistle’s online facades. I think the main goal for those investigators from Massachusetts at the moment may merely be to get Entwistle to talk to them, period. If the same Neil Entwistle now hiding from the British Press and warily dealing with Massachusetts authorities was responsible for all these various websites, one can see how there was no way the man could keep all those plates spinning for very long. The old cliche applies, about what webs we weave when we practice to deceive. Eventually the webs lose their coherence and they can’t sustain their structures. They tatter and collapse. Then the predator who spent so much time weaving them begins to lose precious prey that might otherwise be ensnared, fed upon.

It would seem then that some predators then turn on what is available, and sometimes that might be their husband or wife, or their children.



Simple questions already being asked in online discussions here and elsewhere about the murders of Rachel and Lillian Entwistle:

Was there an insurance policy? More than one?
Could Rachel Entwistle have been pregnant again?
If the answer to even one of those questions is yes, then the Nottinghamshire Police announcement yesterday that Entwistle was only sought as a witness was either a ruse, or completely premature.

Whatever the ultimate answer is, this crime reaches across the ocean and draws in press attention from both countries because it is quite possibly peculiarly emblematic of both American and British cultures. We see complexity and deception, elements that fueled so much British detective fiction in the past, and we witness the shattering of a young family, of their dreams, which seems somehow oh-so-American.



UPDATE, 6:40 a.m. ET

Neil Entwistle appears to have been staying at his parents’ residence in the U.K. since he left the United States last week. This morning he has been seen leaving the residence with a plainclothes detective. This is from a very reliable source in Great Britain. It isn’t known at this time if he is actually in custody or simply talking with police.



Here is a link (http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=195917&command=displayContent&sourceNode=134241&contentPK=13922327&folderPk=78486) sent by “Detective Dan,” who lives in the area. From the article, posted to the Nottingham Evening Post online edition:
TWO police officers today escorted a man believed to be Neil Entwistle from the home of his parents in Worksop.

American police have been looking for Mr Entwistle since his wife Rachel and nine-month-old child Lillian were found shot dead at their home in Massachusetts on Sunday (…)

A few moments later he re-emerged with a man believed to be Neil Entwistle and another man in a suit.

The three men got into the car without speaking and it backed out of the drive and drove off.

Last night Middlesex District Attorney’s office issued a state ment to say they had not ruled anyone out of the investigation…

My most sincere thanks to the people in the United Kingdom who have been sharing information and insight into this case — it has been enlightening and invaluable.

[nanastuff]

For those that might care...the title of this thread started out as simply "Entwistle"....

The title has been changed to "Neil Entwistle".

[rossshow]

"Police said to seek talk with Entwistle, Hopkinton father had online troubles," By Donovan Slack and Stephanie Ebbert, Boston Globe, 1/27/06
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/01/27/police_said_to_seek_talk_with_entwistle (http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/01/27/police_said_to_seek_talk_with_entwistle)

[rossshow]

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060129-084838-8853r


Neil Entwistle is refusing to talk to police about the slayings of his 27-year-old wife and 9-month-old daughter in their Hopkinton, Mass., home.
The Boston Globe reports authorities investigating the case do not regard Entwistle, 27, as a suspect. But they do see him as someone they believe may have valuable information regarding last week's murders.

On Friday, acting on the advice of a lawyer, Entwistle declined to meet with Massachusetts investigators who had flown to England to talk to him, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation told the Globe.

Rachel Entwistle and her daughter, Lillian Rose, were found dead in the master bedroom of their Hopkinton home last Sunday, both shot with a small-caliber gun. At the time, Neil Entwistle, an electrical engineer, was in his native England, authorities said, having flown there late Friday or early Saturday.

Last week, two Hopkinton police officers and two State Police troopers flew to England as part of an investigation into the slayings and sought a meeting with Neil Entwistle.

[paleryder]

CNN Breaking News
Date: 2/9/2006 8:32:15 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: BreakingNews@MAIL.CNN.COM


Neil Entwistle, whose wife and daughter were found shot to death in Massachusetts, arrested in England and charged with two counts of murder, officials in Boston say.

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[rossshow]

Someone was reading this thread this morning, made me think about it, so I looked up the case...


His trial for murder began on June 2, 2008 in Woburn, MA.

He was found guilty on all charges on June 25, 2008 and he was sentenced to life in prison without parole on June 26, 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Entwistle
http://www.entwistlemurdertrial.com/

[krisinluck]

Yeah. I followed that one.

Next up is that loser Casey Anthony, who deserves her own thread in this forum. Another deluded evil shit who thought she could get away with the unspeakable.

[toke]

I think Casey is a fairly transparent murderess. I think the weird one is HER mother. Way beyond weird, actually. :eek:

[thebigkahooouna]

her mother was nothing but a media whore,no wonder the daughter is so fucked up.