Soc is....

[JavaNoire]

A big ole pusbag nasty vile meanie.

He says mean(& nasty) things. About lots&lots&LOTS of people.

I bet he's even hurt some feelings.

Cuz he's so mean. & rotten. & cruel.

I've also heard that he's pigeon toed & peed his pants when he was 6. maybe 7!

Kids say he's too strict. Teachers say he's not strict enough. Right now I'm not at liberty to share what the police say(or the FBI). a*hem, It's *not* what most would call *pretty*...

Pleeeeease do not tell anyone what I'm saying about him or he'll post my name, my full name & where I live...Too late that's been done. To Ross' credit, I think he would have removed it if I'd asked him to, but IMO, the evidence of revolting schmuck fucks oughta remain intact. (MrDiva has denied posting my name. LMAO, it was MrsDiva. Now aren't they JUST the perfect couple?)

Sheesh, mebbe Soc will harass my family & send my employer a shit load o lies. (I'd say new lies but I can't imagine any that haven't been told). Sooo pleeeease don't tell Soc I think he's a big ole eenie meanie weenie pimpin poop.

[rossshow]

Soc?

[Passion]

(MrDiva has denied posting my name. LMAO, it was MrsDiva. Now aren't they JUST the perfect couple?)

They make me nauseous.

Socrfan????

[Cyber Diva]

Soc is another innocent dupe of JavaNoire. Why not leave her name out of this, JavaNoire?

[TurtleTrax]

Socrfan???? No way in Hell.

[JavaNoire]

For clarification, Soc=Socrfan2.

For clarification, I fully expect Soc will read this & go after me with big guns no holds barred cuz criticism gets him all aboil & crazeeeee

For clarification the above statement is sooooooo over the top nutzzz I'd hope everyone knows that I am NOT SERIOUS. Not even a whit bit serious.

For clarification, some people are waaaay over the top nutzzzzz. But not Soc. & if he is, then not in a bad way.

[Cyber Diva]

A big ole pusbag nasty vile meanie.

Sheesh, mebbe Soc will harass my family & send my employer a shit load o lies.

Why would socrfan write a letter to your employer? Besides, isn't your employer just a bit curious about your online behavior? Most employers are starting to get it from their background checks...

More info on JavaNoire's online abuse:

Congratulations, Lee! I see that you have somehow managed to qualify yourself as the latest target of abuse by Javanore, one of the most infamous CarWash members, who is now deriding your business and your character with virtually the same language she has used for years to viciously libel Lorraine. It sounds as if her assaults are scripted, and she merely has substituted your name for hers! Welcome to the club. Not.

http://steeldragon.640k.net/viewtopic.php?t=1337

JavaNoire: “From what I’ve seen of his auctions….”

Tuesday June 6,2006 11:46am-JavaNoire

“I haven’t reported him. I have no plans to do so. Any organized harassment he’s suffered is wrong IMO, but he deserves every blinkin report made about his thieving auctions.

It’s not just a matter of copyright violations. There is also the matter of misrepresentation which has left many of his customers feeling cheated (ummm, b/c they WERE cheated). Adding insult to injury, customers with the temerity to leave him FB concerning their unsatisfactory transactions, receive abusive, dishonest retaliatory FB.

He’s a blight on eBay. Assholes like that hurt ethical, honest sellers even more than buyers. Shenanigans(THIEVERY) like his frighten away many potential buyers. There s/b zero tolerance for crap like his. Shame on eBay for proving themselves to be as scummy scammy as such dreck.”

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Wednesday June 7,2006 3:009pm-JavaNoire

“He copies pages from manuals & sells them at a tidy profit.

By all criteria I’m certain he’s outside the law. (shrug)There’s no *copyright* case to be made if those holding the rights have no interest in protecting their rights.

That he does it remains scummy, but if the copyright holders don’t care about their property rights why would anyone else seek to protect those rights? It’s incumbent on the victims to seek action, IMO & they just don’t care. (shrug)Fine.

Misrepresentation & abuse of the FB system are separate, if related, issues that don’t go up in smoke just b/c the copyright owners are amenable to being robbed. He’s repeatedly shown that he has no interest in representing his (dishonest)wares *honestly*. That eBay turns a blind eye to these crimes(& they are crimes) is sickening.

His lengthy & sordid history of willfully cheating his buyers & then further abusing them through slanderous FB shows that he’s a hopeless schmuck fuck unworthy of rehabilitation. He s/b thrown off eBay. Permanently.

eBay is clearly an even bigger slime than he is & is quite happy to remain cozy with such trash. That is appallin”

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Saturday June 10,2006 7:19pm-JavaNoire

“From what I’ve seen of his auctions(not a great deal, tbh) he long misrepresented poor copies as originals. I don’t know if he stopped that but it seems he now misrepresents crummy photocopies as being of good quality.

What Nuke, Banjo & Alan did with the buying & taping & posting was shitty, but was it AI? He sold ‘em. They bought, paid & rendered an opinion(I’m assuming they left FB)

IF they did it under various IDs, yes, it’s AI & eBay should boot their self righteous butts.

IF they did it repeatedly, again yes & boot ‘em.

IF they were blocked under their known ID & circumvented that with a sock, again, yes, again boot ‘em under all IDs.

IF they did it only to taunt & harass Lee, then yes, that’s AI. Proving that is tough unless they did other things as well. IF Lee’s selling copies as originals he’s in a vulnerable position & should expend his energy putting his business in order so that it isn’t so vulnerable to criticism.

I still read FB. Retaliation is one of the key things I look for. FB used to punish or get even skews the member’s FB b/c others are reluctant to leave honest FB & either leave none or(UGH)lie & pretend to be satisfied when they’re not. Retaliatory FB also indicates someone who reacts when problems arise rather than solving the problem.

Tho’ I read FB it’s so skewed as to be all but useless, esp for newbies that don’t know the tricks played with it. eBay really should improve the FB system. One easy improvement would be to post the sale amt of the transaction.”

I don’t see how your business is any of hers, just as Lorraine’s business is none of her concern, but you can be sure that won’t stop her from intruding into your life whenever she feels the whim to do so. Your restraint is admirable, but it will not save you from her abuse, for as long as you can be used as a tool to forge strategic alliances and to strengthen her ties with TCW, you will be subjected to her unsolicited and unwanted attention. Now that she has attacked you in public, she is free to undermine you in private without seeming hypocritical to her friends, regardless of how she deals with you publicly from this point forward. No doubt she’s calculated that one more complaint to her employer for misusing government resources to stalk and harass businesses online would overcome even the glowing letters of support she’s managed to solicit from her fellow e-hooligans.

Jacinta (aka java javanoire labruja! **invisible** **dejavu** mona*llisa*smiles *mata*hari* tallu1ah *ruby*tuesday* and the infamous trolling/harassment id *cyber*diva*) may be many things, but she is anything but innocent or sincere, I can assure you. You’re now getting an opportunity to see Java in action first hand, engaging in what she does best – pretense and deception.

Javanoire writes:

“For that matter, she was also leaving competitors bad FB when eBay permitted non-transactional FB. AI, Lee? Or do you approve of LYING about competitors to (literally)steal an edge?”

This is a brand new lie Javanoire is just now wheeling out for the first time, and it serves as a fine example of how the Java Rumor Mill operates: First, she shamelessly trots out a blatant lie and presents it as an established fact, signaling her cohorts to chime in with embedded messages like “as everybody knows.” She absolutely never provides any proof of any kind, and where one would expect to find documentation, links, or any other form of actual evidence, she skips that part and instead allows her “supporters” to fill the void with nodding testi-baloney and high fives. If the initial test drive goes well, she and her crew will disseminate the lie through endless repetition, mostly in secret, until its origin is irrelevant. In this way, the lie soon becomes an established “board fact” that now fits perfectly within the larger, ever-changing agglomeration of disinformation Javanoire and her comrades have concocted to date. General acceptance is achieved by summarizing this shared mythology into a written narrative and then privately distributing this “history package” to others using “trusted sources” such as the pathological liar and speculator extraordinaire,Sandy Boardwalker. The narrative thus seeps into the collective mind of the assembled boardsters, and the effect is to further Javanoire’s aggression through proliferation, for her bogus narrative acts as a warrant for continued and escalated attacks, and serves also as an open solicitation to those “true to Javanoire” to come to her aid, and to join the bash fest.

Where are the “link, please” police? Which seller? What feedback? What discussion? Which competitor? And, again, how is any of this Javanoire’s business in the first place? These are just a few of the obvious questions any objective person would need answered before getting involved, but most boardsters are just too logically or ethically challenged to grasp such irony, and so they remain prone to such hypocrisy. Lorraine’s eBay ID is well known, and eBay provides the online tools to easily verify Javanoire’s bogus allegation; but the lazy-brained chuckleheads that comprise Java’s audience just find it’s easier to uncritically accept whatever she says, for they know the favor will be reciprocated when it’s their turn at bat, and they know too the harsh penalty for publicly disagreeing with Java. Such is the society of Internet liars, and anyone that has tried can affirm that honest persuasion through reason and logical argument is an exercise in futility here. So why bother? On the other hand, aggressors like Javanoire are so vindictive they never will voluntarily stop harassing the people they hate, so just how does one get away from this malignant online predator, who has demonstrated a sustained level of malevolence sufficient to motivate her to troll and to harass her prey literally for years? Witness Protection?

A Consummate Internet Troll

Javanoire “earns” loyalty through the techniques of gratuitous flattery, calculated public and private support of key players, particularly when they are wrong and under attack, bidding at their auctions, and through choreographed attacks on “disposable” people, such as Shawn, Lorraine, and now you. She has an extreme need for undeserved admiration from others, and sincerity is never an issue, either with the excessive flattery she pours on others, or with that which she requires in reciprocation. She exhibits an abnormal sense of entitlement, always demanding more for herself and for the various groups to which she belongs than is reasonable or fair, and the rights and feelings of those adversely affected are of little or no consequence to her. She regards herself as being very unique, special, and insightful, and thus more deserving than others, consigning to ignorance and irrelevance any that fail to recognize her singular importance or that dare to contradict her. Emerging from her endless posts is a grossly exaggerated sense of self-importance, which somehow transforms every situation, event, subject, and thread into a narrative about Javanoire; the essence of all discourse thus shifts away almost entirely from substantive matters into a perverse, mindless, self-aggrandizing solipsistic fantasy of subjective exposition concerning Java’s thoughts and opinions, how a situation involves her, and how she feels about it, as if one were reading a transcript of a private therapy session. She then attempts to disguise these self-serving displays with florid paragraphs packed with gushing, gratuitous praise lavished upon people she claims to hardly know. Such meaningless flattery, laden with insincerity, and the equally worthless responses thus elicited, will immediately be detected by any astute observer, but such manipulation is seen to be surprisingly effective in establishing a sense of indebtedness and false intimacy among more credulous and inexperienced participants, and so it’s effect should not be underestimated.

Javanoire treats people she doesn’t like literally as dirt, describing them with evocative terms such as “slimy,” “filthy,” and “scummy,” and her demeanor invariably is haughty, condescending, arrogant, patronizing, and contemptuous when addressing or discussing them. She is envious of others and imagines that others are envious of her, and she thrives on this misconception. Most of all, Java lacks any real sense of empathy: Despite endless displays of factitious concern for others, she demonstrates no actual concern or remorse for the unlimited distress she causes to her victims, whom she deftly recasts as aggressors to thereby refocus all sympathy and concern back onto herself.

This combination of traits, which some might describe as a personality disorder, has nonetheless served Java quite well in constructing an effective apparatus for deflection, a virtually impenetrable smoke screen used to divert unwanted scrutiny and focus away from her and onto her victims. This uncanny transformation from vicious, stalking aggressor into innocent, harmless victim thus jstifies and masks Javanoire’s causeless, continued aggression, conceals her real agenda, and vilifies the actual victim to the point where they have no allies and no voice. If you study her posts over time you will find that she essentially admits this is what she does and that she has “her rights” to do so. According to the Police in Iowa, this is her defense.

When posting to the eBay forums Javanoire has more or less maintained an outwardly demure and apparently civic-minded persona, from what I have seen, doing most of her dirty work behind the scenes, while publicly acting primarily as a foil, as an instigator and as a cheerleader as other crew-members take point in the directed attacks against targeted businesses and unwelcome participants intruding upon “their” forums and threads. Therefore, when viewed in isolation, this persona, however self-serving, nonetheless appears reasonably plausible and consistent; however, when examined in stark contrast with the vile, vulgar, malicious, predatory, and blatantly dishonest persona exhibited at the off-eBay forums, used by current and former eBay members for their un moderated discussions (ezboard.com, therossshow.com, thecarwashlive.com, theauctionwatch.com, steeldragon.640k.net, etc), then this cheerful, naïve eBay persona is unmasked, revealing, in my view, a cynical, manipulative, calculating, and thoroughly dishonest propagandist.

Brief History With This Crew...


http://networkstalking.org/wordpress/category/javanoire/

[rossshow]

Oh. It's like a sarcastic thread.

[JavaNoire]

Soc isn't even a guilty dupe of mine. IFF I had dupes I'd be honored to have one the calibre of Soc. *shrug*People of that calibre are never dupes. And frankly, people of my calibre, neither desire nor need *dupes* That's DivaLingo & as worthy as her other spewings.

[rossshow]

That's DivaLingo & as worthy as her other spewings. Yeah, stating something so obviously not true, ya mean. I get ya, now.

[Cyber Diva]

Soc isn't even a guilty dupe of mine.

Perhaps she's not a dupe, perhaps you're saying she's sent you communications wherein she's standing behind you. Good for you! Another one joins your cause!



We could see that the forums were being utilized to conduct privately-motivated witch hunts and board trials, while important discussions were being consistently shunted to the sidelines, ridiculed, and derailed. Our policy generally was to object and to add balance, and for this we were systematically attacked, undermined, and scorned. Any number of dishonest means were employed to relentlessly attack our credibility, and to artificially enhance their own status. We began to study some of the more belligerent netcops in 2003, and as we assembled enough facts, we discovered that these vigilantes invariably belonged to crews formed to exploit the various loopholes and vulnerabilities in the eBay system for the benefit of crew members, but there has always seemed to be more to it than this. As anyone can see, their easily discernible activities include unbridled aggression, shill bidding among crew members, auction interference against business competitors, and assaults on designated enemies, while hypocrisy, pathological lying, and belligerence are among their common traits. Ironically, netcop crew members profess a deep and abiding intolerance of fraud and deception, and claim a sincere altruistic concern for others, and this is supposed to explain why they “volunteer” their time, month after month, and year after year. We never bought this. These people just lack the qualities of the altruistic personality, and to a person, each practices deception as an art, turning a blind eye or giving a wink and a nod to the blatant fraud of fellow members, while raising to infinity the minor alleged infractions of their crew’s targets. We do not believe anyone can be this hypocritical and so utterly lack a sense of proportion unless it is deliberate and calculated, or that characters like these would work this hard and for this long in concert with others without substantial remuneration in some form. It simply defies reason.

[JavaNoire]

"isn't your employer just a bit curious about your online behavior?"

Thanks to your (unethical & probably illegal)harassment, they were. Thanks to what my OL behavior PROVED to be, they quickly lost interest & realized you're just a malevolent pair of electronic age malcontents wearing a HUGE chip on your shoulder.

[socrfan2]

Java, LOL.

I got it, right away.

I don't think Diva did, though. The whoosh you hear is the sound of your sarcasm flying over her head. (Shame to waste such good material on a slow learner.)

[Kravitz]

Oh for fucks sake.

:1JerryJer

~waves to Socr~

[JavaNoire]

Sigggggghhh. For everyone BUT the Divas...

I don't know Soc's gender. (My guess is male)
I don't know Soc's name, 1st or last, city or state of residence. (Hell s/he could live in Zimbabwe for all I know)
I've had no communication with Soc apart from these very puclic discussion boards...No IMs PMs emails phone calls NOTHING(sob)

Not for the Divas cuz they believe as they wish & fuck the facts.

[JavaNoire]

Soc. I might have made more serious accusations in an OBVIOUSLY sarcastic way but I feared such *proof* would be added to your (rapidly accumulating) dossier. As it is, I worry I might've labeled you a bedwetter for life(ya know how they exaggerate as well as fabricate). Send me the shrink bills if it becomes too traumnatic.

[Heartland]

socrfan2 is a she? :D

It's obvious that many, many things have gone "whoosh" over her head. :2headspin

*now imagining socrfan2 in a dress, high heels, and bright red lipstick*

:1chirol_r

[Kravitz]

To clarify, I was actually laughing at this thread. :2headspin

Carry on.

[Passion]

I believe socrfan is male. Have encountered him on the stores bd unless he doesn't own that id on ebay.

I didn't think you were referring to him, but didn't know enough about the interplay here to be able to make a judgement.

Java, you go, girl.

[JavaNoire]

*now imagining socrfan2 in a dress, high heels, and bright red lipstick*

Ya know that's as good as in his/her rapidly accumulating dossier, doncha?

If it's her we now have *proof* she's a hooker.

If it's him, he's an admitted cross dresser (& COULD be a hooker!)

[Passion]

*now imagining socrfan2 in a dress, high heels, and bright red lipstick*

Ya know that's as good as in his/her rapidly accumulating dossier, doncha?

If it's her we now have *proof* she's a hooker.

If it's him, he's an admitted cross dresser (& COULD be a hooker!)

Don't give "them" any ideas. :rolleyes:

[rca001]

Don't you remember, some months ago, the Divas decided that Socr was a woman from Ohio? They even had a name for her/him, but I forget what it was.
:2headspin
rca001

[socrfan2]

No, they disagreed. One of them thought I was from Indiana.

I hate to be found out this way.

[Cyber Diva]

JavaNoire wrote: :1dig: 09-17-2006, 11:23 PM

"I was accused of racketeering, shilling, bid siphoning, AI, harassing phone calls & emails, threats & terrorism."

The same answer given to Sandy, applies to JavaNoire, the libeler, stalker, harasser, and filer of FALSE police reports.....and here it is:

Originally Posted by Cyber Diva

No, Sandy. YOU need to prove that these accusations exist. Why would I have to "prove" allegations I've never made? But that's what you're demanding. Many people have made general statements about the Car Wash, when you were a member, perhaps you're confused.

This is a tired old act you've been putting on now for years, falsely accusing others of having "falsely accused" you, but you've come to the end of the road with this one. If you claim that I've made allegations against you then show me where I've done that. If you can do that then I can give you the proof of any allegation I have made, because I only make true allegations. If you can't provide any proof then you need to shut up and move on to something else. You say "100 people" have seen what you claim, but all they have seen is you repeatedly posting these same old falsehoods. Over time, your lies are all that anyone can remember. You've done this to so many people before.

As you know, because you've said so yourself, the Car Wash has engaged in AI. That's no secret. It's also no secret that Polonsky had blamed you for much of it. Not I. Perhaps you're just feeling guilty by association. Perhaps that's how you're perceived.


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